Is the Pope as he claims “God on Earth”.

byass

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God's truth according to scripture utterly condemns Roman Catholicism's Popery.
Statiscs are totally irrelevant. The fact that billions are caught up in Roman Catholic Popery only means that
it is a popular widespread deception. Regardless of how many church fathers or theologians past, present or future invent arguments to
support the Roman Catholic Popery .
 

annabenedetti

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God's truth according to scripture utterly condemns Roman Catholicism's Popery.
Statiscs are totally irrelevant. The fact that billions are caught up in Roman Catholic Popery only means that
it is a popular widespread deception. Regardless of how many church fathers or theologians past, present or future invent arguments to
support the Roman Catholic Popery .

The most consistent thing about Christianity are the legions of Christians telling other Christians they aren't saved.
 

Idolater

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I'm sure there are many in the Body who are still snared in the lies of Catholicism just as there are many still snared in the lies of Islam.
There are many snared in lies about Catholicism, but I can't see any actual lies of Catholicism. Cite? Or not. Either way, peace to you.
 

Right Divider

Body part
There are many snared in lies about Catholicism, but I can't see any actual lies of Catholicism. Cite? Or not. Either way, peace to you.
If you can't see "any actual lies of Catholicism", you are not looking. The lies are a multitude. Try the "ascension of Mary" for one. But there are many that are far, far more serious than that.
 

annabenedetti

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Their support of immigration is unamerican. ?

Catholic support of immigrants is more Christian than evangelical hatred of immigrants.

I was born and raised and am still Catholic, although as I've said before here I'm not a very good one these days. I doubt a lot and my faith is fragile. I know a fair amount more than the average Catholic about Catholic history and doctrine and in past years argued frequently with evangelicals, refuting the lies that have been fabricated about Catholicism for centuries, much in the same way politically active evangelicals today now fabricate lies about liberals. The insurrectionists at the Capitol were invoking God in their efforts. Now that's unAmerican. From what I've seen of evangelicalism in the last 20 years, there has been absolutely nothing to draw me to their aggressively nationalistic and combative form of Christianity.

Edited to add: You might well say, what about the violent history of the Catholic Church? I have no defense to offer, it was violent. That's not something the average Catholic gives much thought to if they ever have at all.
 
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byass

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The most consistent thing about Christianity are the legions of Christians telling other Christians they aren't saved.
Yes and rightly so.
Jude says, 'I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints (Jude 3)
Paul says''test everything...'(1Thess5:21)
The Pope declares that whoever disagrees with their edicts is anathema(?)
 

annabenedetti

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Yes and rightly so.
Jude says, 'I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints (Jude 3)
Paul says''test everything...'(1Thess5:21)
The Pope declares that whoever disagrees with their edicts is anathema(?)


I'm reminded that Paul uses anathema too. In the Catholic Church it meant excommunication, an extra-extra excommunication with lots of ceremony, it was rarely used and is no longer in Canon law at all. There still is such a thing as excommunication but truth be told, no one talks about it or cares about it and we rarely hear about it happening. Catholicism, the way I grew up in it, is more sacramental and less Bible studying, we don't dive into the Bible the way you do. The Mass and the sacraments are the center of Catholic life, and while there are readings from old and new testament at every Mass, the focus is on the consecration. It's true, average Catholics don't study the Bible to a great extent although there are usually Bible studies in every parish so it does happen, but I'm not going to argue that there isn't a huge difference in the way you read the Bible and the way Catholics read the Bible.

But back to your comment, the pope doesn't just say something and we say "Yay Pope!" or we're anathema.
 

byass

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I'm reminded that Paul uses anathema too. In the Catholic Church it meant excommunication, an extra-extra excommunication with lots of ceremony, it was rarely used and is no longer in Canon law at all. There still is such a thing as excommunication but truth be told, no one talks about it or cares about it and we rarely hear about it happening. Catholicism, the way I grew up in it, is more sacramental and less Bible studying, we don't dive into the Bible the way you do. The Mass and the sacraments are the center of Catholic life, and while there are readings from old and new testament at every Mass, the focus is on the consecration. It's true, average Catholics don't study the Bible to a great extent although there are usually Bible studies in every parish so it does happen, but I'm not going to argue that there isn't a huge difference in the way you read the Bible and the way Catholics read the Bible.

But back to your comment, the pope doesn't just say something and we say "Yay Pope!" or we're anathema.
I'm reminded that Paul uses anathema too. In the Catholic Church it meant excommunication, an extra-extra excommunication with lots of ceremony, it was rarely used and is no longer in Canon law at all. There still is such a thing as excommunication but truth be told, no one talks about it or cares about it and we rarely hear about it happening. Catholicism, the way I grew up in it, is more sacramental and less Bible studying, we don't dive into the Bible the way you do. The Mass and the sacraments are the center of Catholic life, and while there are readings from old and new testament at every Mass, the focus is on the consecration. It's true, average Catholics don't study the Bible to a great extent although there are usually Bible studies in every parish so it does happen, but I'm not going to argue that there isn't a huge difference in the way you read the Bible and the way Catholics read the Bible.

But back to your comment, the pope doesn't just say something and we say "Yay Pope!" or we're anathema.
Your spot on about the big difference we read the a Bible. I place authority in what the Bible says not what the church says.
 

annabenedetti

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Your spot on about the big difference we read the a Bible. I place authority in what the Bible says not what the church says.

This has always been the difference between us, scripture is your sole authority (even though various denominations interpret it differently) and our authority rests on three: scripture, tradition, and the teaching magisterium (popes and bishops). I don't think either of us expects that to change.
 
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