Is President Trump cutting some of his supporters off?

expos4ever

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It's too late for all the obfuscation and deflection. Trump isn't criticizing any of his supporters. He's criticizing antifa and blm for they were the ones who broke into the Capitol building. The evidence is enough to convict on that.
Where is your evidence that antifa and BLM had anything to do with the events of Wednesday. Vague hearsay is not evidence.

Who, exactly, are these witnesses who "saw busloads of antife and blm people dressed as Trump supporters". I guarantee you these people will turn out to be complete wackos, if you can find any.
 

Gary K

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Too little, too late. One police officer died because radical right wing trumpsters did as their dear leader told them too.
Quote Trump's words. Show them in video or print. Your bald assertion is worth nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada. I know there is video out there of Trump's entire speech. Show from his speech that he was whipping the crowd into a violent frenzy. Oh. That's right. You can't. His speech wasn't anything like that. All he did was lay out the evidence of the election fraud.
 

Eric h

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Show from his speech that he was whipping the crowd into a violent frenzy. Oh. That's right. You can't. His speech wasn't anything like that. All he did was lay out the evidence of the election fraud.

In that case it seems strange that his supporters interpreted Trump's words as; invade Capitol Buildings and cause mayhem.
 

exminister

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It's too late for all the obfuscation and deflection. Trump isn't criticizing any of his supporters. He's criticizing antifa and blm for they were the ones who broke into the Capitol building. The evidence is enough to convict on that.

There is enough video out that documents it to leave any doubt. And the woman who was shot in the Capitol building was the victim of a hit. She was seeing things she was not supposed to see so they murdered her in cold blood. Couldn't have her talking afterwards.

There are witnesses who saw busloads of antifa and blm people dressed as Trump supporters. And there is video of cops locking Trump supporters in their hotels. And video of the cops leading the way into the capitol building. The cops in DC hadn't cooperated with the Trump people at all up to this point. They had maced Trump supporters for asking that they uphold the law and arrest someone for assault battery on a Trump supporter. And now they are leading Trump supporters into the building and encouraging them on? Sorry. No go.

This was one massive false flag event. But it failed. Oh, you'll never hear the propaganda arm of the deep state and Democrats say it, but it's true. We're used to all the lies and manipulation coming from you socialists. We've observed you for decades and your tactics are very well known.

Trump has escaped your clutches just when you thought you had him once again.
This is to be expected from radical right. The No True Scotsman Fallacy.
Well, they were Trump supporters. They could have used masks but they didn't. So you can lie about this all you want but the faces don't lie.

These injured or dead people have left loads of evidence and they were Trump supporters.
Rosanne Boyland, Ashli Babbit, Kevin Greeson, Brian Sicknick. Ashli was shot by an officer. What was there to not to see? Way too much video to push that theory. And who isn't talking now? They didn't shoot everyone.

For added emphasis a total Trump supporter Derrick Evans - WV state representative - was there and he was one of the first to breech the building and recording it.

They have facebook pages showing a long history of being for this insurrectionist President.

So in time all the arrests and the tons of video will confirm you hoping for a different reality is false. Don't let Trump's lie continue to distort your reality.
 

exminister

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Quote Trump's words. Show them in video or print. Your bald assertion is worth nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada. I know there is video out there of Trump's entire speech. Show from his speech that he was whipping the crowd into a violent frenzy. Oh. That's right. You can't. His speech wasn't anything like that. All he did was lay out the evidence of the election fraud.
Blinded by the light of his lies I see. You haven't been listening to his speeches without blinders on.

Today some of his right wing crowd have said they wanted to hang Pence. If they said that about a President they would be arrested.
 

annabenedetti

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This is to be expected from radical right. The No True Scotsman Fallacy.
Well, they were Trump supporters. They could have used masks but they didn't. So you can lie about this all you want but the faces don't lie.

These injured or dead people have left loads of evidence and they were Trump supporters.
Rosanne Boyland, Ashli Babbit, Kevin Greeson, Brian Sicknick. Ashli was shot by an officer. What was there to not to see? Way too much video to push that theory. And who isn't talking now? They didn't shoot everyone.

For added emphasis a total Trump supporter Derrick Evans - WV state representative - was there and he was one of the first to breech the building and recording it.

They have facebook pages showing a long history of being for this insurrectionist President.

So in time all the arrests and the tons of video will confirm you hoping for a different reality is false. Don't let Trump's lie continue to distort your reality.

They're actually pretty proud of themselves.

 

annabenedetti

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Man with foot up on desk in Pelosi's office at Capitol arrested
WASHINGTON — A man photographed casually sitting with his foot on a desk in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office at the U.S. Capitol while a pro-Trump mob rampaged the halls of Congress was arrested Friday, law enforcement officials said.

Richard Barnett, 60, of Gravette, Arkansas, was taken into custody in his home state on charges of entering and remaining on restricted grounds, violent entry and theft of public property, according to a Department of Justice official. Further details were not immediately available.
 

Hilltrot

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Man with foot up on desk in Pelosi's office at Capitol arrested
WASHINGTON — A man photographed casually sitting with his foot on a desk in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office at the U.S. Capitol while a pro-Trump mob rampaged the halls of Congress was arrested Friday, law enforcement officials said.

Richard Barnett, 60, of Gravette, Arkansas, was taken into custody in his home state on charges of entering and remaining on restricted grounds, violent entry and theft of public property, according to a Department of Justice official. Further details were not immediately available.
Somebody forgets what happened less than a year ago.


So this protest was extremely peaceful. I didn't even see any fires.

What's good for the goose . . .
 
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Gary K

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In that case it seems strange that his supporters interpreted Trump's words as; invade Capitol Buildings and cause mayhem.
It's very strange indeed. But it isn't strange at all the antifa and blm would be more than happy to make Trump supporters look bad. When it's proven members of those groups were inside the capitol building just what were they doing there? Why were they dressed as Trump supporters? What was their purpose?
 

annabenedetti

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FBI: No Evidence Antifa Involved In Capitol Chaos

FBI Assistant Director Steven D’Antuono said Friday there is no evidence that antifa activists were involved in the violent riots in and around the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, debunking the baseless conspiracy theory propagated by several prominent Republican lawmakers and right-wing pundits that anti-fascist leftists—not a pro-Trump mob—were responsible for death and destruction at the Capitol.
 

Gary K

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Blinded by the light of his lies I see. You haven't been listening to his speeches without blinders on.

Today some of his right wing crowd have said they wanted to hang Pence. If they said that about a President they would be arrested.
Nothing but baseless assertions. Not a single piece of evidence. If you had any you'd show it. You know as well as I do it's all a lie.

As to your comment on someone saying they wanted to hang Pence, remember Madonna saying publicly that she wanted to blow up the White House? Remember a leftist actually shooting Republicans on a baseball field? Remember leftists saying that conservatives need to be eliminated? Remember all the riots by blm and antifa committing arson time and time again? Remember them shooting people who disagreed with them? Remember the times they burnt down businesses because the owner didn't give them what they wanted or told them to stop demonstrating in front of his business?

The history of violence and the inciting of violence on the left is far, far greater than the one time that someone posing as a Trump supporter advocated violence. Accept responsibility from your own political allies.
 

Gary K

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FBI: No Evidence Antifa Involved In Capitol Chaos

FBI Assistant Director Steven D’Antuono said Friday there is no evidence that antifa activists were involved in the violent riots in and around the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, debunking the baseless conspiracy theory propagated by several prominent Republican lawmakers and right-wing pundits that anti-fascist leftists—not a pro-Trump mob—were responsible for death and destruction at the Capitol.
So says the FBI who has already broken their own laws and rules for years proving just how corrupt they are. And you are quoting them as a moral authority?
 

exminister

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Have only seen baseless assertions antifa was at the Trump sponsored riot at the Capitol.

Kevin Greeson died outside the Capitol but he was an angry supporter of Donald. The heart attack probably prevented him going into the Capitol

https://parler.com/profile/KevinDGreeson/posts

In his posts you will find these comments
Let’s take this f****** Country BACK!! Load your guns and take to the streets!

Hell yes ... Proud Boys!!!!

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exminister

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So you also cannot find it in his speech. All you can do is spew rhetoric.
All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical left Democrats, which is what they’re doing and stolen by the fake news media. That’s what they’ve done and what they’re doing. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. <the others are criminal. What do you do with criminals?>

Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. <what do you do with thieves>

We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen. <all else has failed. What’s left to do you 2nd amendment people? The government is the problem. Time for revolution.>

Crowd: Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! <fight? the courts and government has failed>

We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that. <how can you get it right? How at this last chance are you NOT going to let it stand?>

For years, Democrats have gotten away with election fraud and weak Republicans, and that’s what they are. There’s so many weak Republicans. <what should happen to these criminals who are above the law?>

And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.<fight? How can the country be taken back at this last stand?>

Guilliani called for trial by combat <what’s combat?>


Trump speech was horrible and incoherent, tedious to read through but the point is he is wonderful and the Democrats are evil and some Republicans too. You know the others, scum of the earth, low lifes just because they disagree with him. Children of Satan.
So, if you have a crowd all juiced up by such lies for 5 years giving them a feeling they are gods chosen and the others are of Satan and the chosen feel entitled you can expect violence. Permission granted.

that’s why I say you are blinded by his lies. You translate his words into something less harsh. than someone not so sucked in. He is a master at deception and misinformation. He has started over 3000 court cases and so he knows how to skirt some bold faced criminal statements, but his radical rabid base know what he really means and the results of the day show it. He told him he would walk to the Capitol with them. He didn’t and being the grifter he let them go and breech the Capitol. If he was a man and he is not he could have gone over to the Capitol in a very few minutes and tell them to stop. No he watched the proceedings in TV with delight. He uses his base like pawns and is responsible for the deaths.

So you also cannot find it in his speech. All you can do is spew rhetoric.
 
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