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serpentdove

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Are your eyes blue or black? :scripto:

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Existence of Alien Beings

Existence of Alien Beings

Scripture does not address the question of whether there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. However, we can use biblical principles to reach a conclusion about ETs.

Romans 8 makes it clear that man’s sin has tainted the entire universe. So if there were beings on other planets similar to man, then those beings would be subject to the effects of man’s sin. Would this be just? Could sentient beings on other planets be fallen creatures? If so, and since these beings are not descendants of Adam, what would be God’s plan of redemption for them?

The Bible indicates that man was made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26) and is the center of God’s attention (Hebrews 2:7), leaving no room for other beings.

Again, given the account of the fall of Adam, the entire created universe is tainted by original sin.

Since Christ is fully God and fully man, the God-man, only mankind could be redeemed. There are not a collection of God-Xs sitting at the right hand of God the Father in glorified bodies made up of God-man, God-Vulcan, God-Klingon, etc.

If there are aliens, they could not be redeemed, or possess souls as we understand the term from Scripture.

So, for me, the only conclusion is that any aliens on other planets, if they existed, would be malevolent beings, that is demons.

Arguing from the position that the universe seems to be a whole lot of wasted space, ignores the centricity of the earth in creation (Genesis 1:14 and forward), or the Psalmist's declaration that the universe is the means by which God declares His glorious infinitude (Psalm 19).

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freelight

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ET life on other worlds........

ET life on other worlds........

Scripture does not address the question of whether there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. However, we can use biblical principles to reach a conclusion about ETs.

Romans 8 makes it clear that man’s sin has tainted the entire universe. So if there were beings on other planets similar to man, then those beings would be subject to the effects of man’s sin. Would this be just? Could sentient beings on other planets be fallen creatures? If so, and since these beings are not descendants of Adam, what would be God’s plan of redemption for them?

The Bible indicates that man was made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26) and is the center of God’s attention (Hebrews 2:7), leaving no room for other beings.

Again, given the account of the fall of Adam, the entire created universe is tainted by original sin.

Since Christ is fully God and fully man, the God-man, only mankind could be redeemed. There are not a collection of God-Xs sitting at the right hand of God the Father in glorified bodies made up of God-man, God-Vulcan, God-Klingon, etc.

If there are aliens, they could not be redeemed, or possess souls as we understand the term from Scripture.

So, for me, the only conclusion is that any aliens on other planets, if they existed, would be malevolent beings, that is demons.

Arguing from the position that the universe seems to be a whole lot of wasted space, ignores the centricity of the earth in creation (Genesis 1:14 and forward), or the Psalmist's declaration that the universe is the means by which God declares His glorious infinitude (Psalm 19).

AMR


I see no reason to limit extraterrestrial life to what the Bible teaches or does not inform us about, since there may not be other universes that have fallen or have been quarantined like Earth in its Adamic default. Other universes with inhabited worlds seeded with mortal human stock or humanoid beings would not be subject to imperfections accrued on this planet.

The Bible was written by men subject to the memory grid, history and cultural-conditioning of this planet alone, so it deals more with this planet specifically in its local universe parameter. The Urantia Book and other cosmic history sources share more about this.

In a Grand Universe of many thousands, even millions of universes (all including vast galaxies, solar systems, inhabited and uninhabited worlds)....each system, universe and world would be subject to the laws, creative order and creation mandates of those realms and the fashion of the Creators of those realms. While universal laws prevail for the entire cosmos, each system would have its own unique signature, history, conditions, pattern of evolution, cause and effects, etc.

The UB on ETs.


We explore this some in my 'Disclosure Project' thread here :)
 
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freelight

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And we have zero proof :rolleyes: (except for the coming delusion
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). 2 Thess 2:9, 11, 2 Co 11:4

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There is a lot of indications, evidences, witnesses to the likelihood and probability of ET life, technology and cultures, mostly from the reality of life itself, whose infinite potential already always has the infinity of life. - this includes unlimited dimensions of space and time for evolving worlds and life forms to arise. Try the 'Disclosure Project' for starters. Then NASA. - this besides UFO and contactee accounts....and more. You don't have to believe....that's your choice....but this doesn't discount or nullify evidence.

 
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freelight

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Infinite creation

Infinite creation

"There's a sucker born every minute"
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~ P. T. Barnum 2 Thess 2:9, 11, 2

I think it is more suckerish or presumptuous to assume within the infinity of Spirit, Energy and infinite intelligence that this is the only inhabitable planet in the cosmos.

Because LIFE is Infinite....and I see continuous creation/evolution being inherent within LIFE. I find it quite likely/probable....and fully logical that there are worlds without end. Each world within multiple universes/star families are evolving along at their own pace within the cosmos, by divine ordination, pattern and cycle. Such is life.
 

freelight

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Our search for life on other planets.....

Our search for life on other planets.....

Just a reminder,....the NASA video a few posts back has been re-embedded and ready for viewing :)

Here is another NASA press conference on the recent discovery of the Trappist 1 star system, where 7 earth like exo-planets exist, 3 being in the 'habitable zone'.




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Just a reminder,....the NASA video a few posts back has been re-embedded and ready for viewing :)

Here is another NASA press conference on the recent discovery of the Trappist 1 star system, where 7 earth like exo-planets exist, 3 being in the 'habitable zone'.




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Fool's errand - earth is the only planet with life
 

freelight

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Fool's errand - earth is the only planet with life

Can you provide evidence beyond any shadow of doubt? You actually believe in the entire cosmos, in the great expanse of space, within infinity itself, that we on this little speck of dust in the Grand Universe of billions upon billions of planets, star systems, galaxies, universes....are the only life in the totality of existence? - well,...you're welcome to be 'believe' such. But you dont KNOW.
 

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The Bible was written by men subject to the memory grid, history and cultural-conditioning of this planet alone, so it deals more with this planet specifically in its local universe parameter. The Urantia Book and other cosmic history sources share more about this.
Your moonbeam theologies aside, the Bible is the word of God in the words of men superintended by God the Holy Spirit. One book alone lays claim to its divine authorship. Let that be your regula fidei.

AMR
 

freelight

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Ps 68:17-18 :rapture:

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Yes, could be your ride,...but do note that such symbolic language as 'chariots' can also denote flying ships, transport vehicles, or craft of various kinds made of pure energy. So, they could be 'angelic' and/or ET transporters. Did you really think flying horses and mere crude or ornamental ancient chariots are being used in this imagery of the 'chariots of the Gods'? I'd expand my imagination a bit more ;)
 

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[No life other planets] Can you provide evidence beyond any shadow of doubt? You actually believe in the entire cosmos, in the great expanse of space, within infinity itself, that we on this little speck of dust in the Grand Universe of billions upon billions of planets, star systems, galaxies, universes....are the only life in the totality of existence? - well,...you're welcome to be 'believe' such. But you dont KNOW.
Easy pickins 1 Pe 5:8

As a reminder freelight is number 1 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Misc. category. :burnlib:
 
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