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Are angels non-human?

Angels are not physical beings, and they do not currently manifest themselves in physical forms (as per scripture).

I just gave you two STRONG pieces of evidence that aliens don't exist. Are you going to ignore them?
 

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Angels are not physical beings, and they do not currently manifest themselves in physical forms (as per scripture).

I just gave you two STRONG pieces of evidence that aliens don't exist. Are you going to ignore them?
Chapter and verse for "they do not currently manifest themselves in physical forms."
 

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Chapter and verse for "they do not currently manifest themselves in physical forms."

It's not a specific chapter and verse. It's an observation made by getting an overview of the Bible.
 

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Uh Oh, just doubled-down...
Yes, I "just doubled down" on "no reason to dogmatically assume."

Of course, you may have a reason to make dogmatic assumptions on this (or any) issue if your religious beliefs require you to. Mine don't.
 

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Yes, I "just doubled down" on "no reason to dogmatically assume."

Of course, you may have a reason to make dogmatic assumptions on this (or any) issue if your religious beliefs require you to. Mine don't.
No need for being defensive, just enjoying your and Dozer's ("Doser") back and forth.

"This is an A and B conversation, C your way out" would be fine, especially if I'm no help at all.
I don't assume that it is, but I don't assume that it isn't either. I'm not the one who claims to know that which is unknown, so I am open to ideas.
"Men in Black" and "Sting" in your avatar... connected? (again, if I'm a distraction, you can make the call)

🤔 Out of curiosity, what did this have to do with 'religious' belief, btw?
 

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"Men in Black" and "Sting" in your avatar... connected? (again, if I'm a distraction, you can make the call)
Not at all. I'm simply a fan.
Out of curiosity, what did this have to do with 'religious' belief, btw?
Ask the ones on this thread who are casting aspersions what the extraterrestrial hypothesis has to do with their religious beliefs. It seems to be the entire basis of their objection to the mere suggestion that there might be ETs.

Personally, I guess it's more likely than not that these UFOs are man-made, but even if so, that raises questions that are almost as intriguing as the ET hypothesis. I say this because whoever these objects belong to has apparently mastered antigravity and perhaps even warp drive technology. This is assuming that US military reports of the flight capabilities of these objects is accurate. If it is accurate, that is pretty mind-blowing all by itself.
 

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Not at all. I'm simply a fan.

Ask the ones on this thread who are casting aspersions what the extraterrestrial hypothesis has to do with their religious beliefs. It seems to be the entire basis of their objection to the mere suggestion that there might be ETs.

Personally, I guess it's more likely than not that these UFOs are man-made, but even if so, that raises questions that are almost as intriguing as the ET hypothesis. I say this because whoever these objects belong to has apparently mastered antigravity and perhaps even warp drive technology. This is assuming that US military reports of the flight capabilities of these objects is accurate. If it is accurate, that is pretty mind-blowing all by itself.
A friend is planning an Area 51 motorcycle trip in the next couple of years. I'm not as interested in UFO's, but the areas around those places are beautiful and I'll go. He seems about like you, open to the possibility. C.S. Lewis wrote his Space Trilogy upon the premise and it brought up interesting ideas such as what God might do differently, how people, given another chance, might not sin, etc. So, even though I don't believe, the conversation can open up a lot of really good theology questions.

I don't know a lot about dinosaurs, even with bones and skin so I certainly don't know about any other life God may have made. I appreciate verses that suggest we are it and I also appreciate speculation from thoughtful men and women. -Lon
 
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UFOs are all over the news lately, and it's only going to get more coverage from here because UFOs are real, they're in our skies, and sometimes they land.

The big UFO news lately is that our military, especially the Navy, has been encountering UFOs on practically a daily basis in recent years. Here's a piece that aired on 60 Minutes recently about that very topic, with Navy fighter pilots interviewed about their close encounters:


What say you? Is this really happening or what?
All the videos in that story have really easy explanations.

The tic tac is a passenger jet. The FLIR video is the IR from another jet of some kind. The "go-fast" video is a ballon, and its not really going fast.

See this short video:

The guy who made this video, Mick West, has detailed videos on each one on his youtube channel.

The question I have is why the government is leaving this to speculation in public when there are obvious explanations.
 

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All the videos in that story have really easy explanations.
If that's true, then the Navy pilots are utterly clueless and the radar data is false and no one in military or political leadership has any clue what they are talking about regarding this issue.
 

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If that's true, then the Navy pilots are utterly clueless and the radar data is false and no one in military or political leadership has any clue what they are talking about regarding this issue.
So what?

Try to engage with what is presented to you in a rational manner.

Heck, it was a YouTube link. He was even speaking your language.
 

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The guy who made this video, Mick West, has detailed videos on each one on his youtube channel.
"Mick West has suggested that the object caught on Underwood's ATFLIR immediately following Fravor's engagement with a UAP was nothing more than a friendly F-18. In this video I will attempt to explain, for a casual audience, why this isn't possible when considering the network of sensors within a modern battlespace":

 
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