How to tell if you're a Marxist

chair

Well-known member
Ooooh. What an intellect. I'm really impressed. You can build a straw man and then knock it down.

When you decide to have an honest discussion let me know. Until then, so long.

It is not a straw man. Your own argument was that any government control over the use of your property is Marxist:
You really don't understand how zoning laws are the government taking over private property? Zoning laws tell a person what they can do on their own property. Meaning that they do not control their own property. The individual bought it with his own money, yet the government controls it. That's a removal of his property. That which he does not control he does not really own.

Your arguments are weak, and apparently you don't have any idea of how to defend them.
 

Gary K

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It is not a straw man. Your own argument was that any government control over the use of your property is Marxist:


Your arguments are weak, and apparently you don't have any idea of how to defend them.

Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem. Dispute what I said, not what you want me to have said. Show how zoning laws that remove a property owner's control over his own property do not remove his control over his own property. Oh, that isn't disputable so you have to create the straw man. Straw men don't work with me. I've seen way too many of them over the years. So, until you can honestly dispute what I said, so long.
 

Jose Fly

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Ooooh. What an intellect. I'm really impressed. You can build a straw man and then knock it down.

When you decide to have an honest discussion let me know. Until then, so long.

You're not making any sense, and you're making Barbarian a prophet.

You're the one who claimed that property taxes, zoning laws, and federal ownership of land constituted the abolishment of private property. It's right there in your OP. But apparently you don't stand by those arguments and will run away from them at the first hint of questioning.....

....which is pretty much what Barbarian said you would do.
 

chair

Well-known member
Apparently you have a reading comprehension problem. Dispute what I said, not what you want me to have said. Show how zoning laws that remove a property owner's control over his own property do not remove his control over his own property. Oh, that isn't disputable so you have to create the straw man. Straw men don't work with me. I've seen way too many of them over the years. So, until you can honestly dispute what I said, so long.

Try reading what you yourself wrote.
 

Catholic Crusader

Kyrie Eleison
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You be pretty hilarious, barby.

Not really. He's a fake Catholic promoting evil which is quite offensive to real Catholics like me.


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The Barbarian

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CC hates real Catholics, and trolls here regularly.

Notice that he was just fine with Eveready posting some old libel against Catholics, but he was outraged at me for exposing the dishonesty.

You outed yourself, CC.
 

The Barbarian

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How to know if you're a Marxist? This is what a Marxist says:

Here are the basic principles of Marxism:

• Opposition to an economic system based on inequality and on the alienation and exploitation of the majority (by means of the system of wage labor), a system whose purpose is to obtain profits for some people rather than satisfying the needs of all. This describes capitalism, but one can obviously imagine other systems that would present similar essential characteristics, to which Marxists would be equally opposed.

For the transformation of society, Marxism considers that a revolutionary process that will lead to a society based on cooperation and the free distribution of goods and provision of services is necessary.

• “The emancipation of the workers must be the task of the workers themselves.” This is principle is inherent to real Marxism, which implies democracy and self-emancipation; it also means that democracy is the indispensable foundation for a new society (called socialism or communism). This society, liberated from the diverse forms of domination, will have to be freely constructed by its members.

• Internationalism, which is simultaneously the recognition of the common interests of the workers of the entire world and of the need to struggle on a world scale, and of the goal of abolishing nations in the transition to a human world community.

• The knowledge and analysis of History (the materialist conception of history).

• The recognition of the existence of social classes that divide men and women into distinct segments of the population; the recognition of the profound inequalities and injustices that separate these classes; and the recognition that as long as society is divided into classes, there will be conflicts between these classes (the class struggle).

As a result, while they participate in the day-to-day class struggle of the workers, Marxists work on behalf of a reorganization of society that will put an end to this class division.

• The free exercise of the critical spirit. “Doubt everything”, Marx said; for the goal is to perceive reality as it is, in order to understand it better and thus to transform it.


If this is what drives you, you're probably a Marxist. Notice that some of these apply to other groups like many conservatives (class warfare) or many liberals (doubt everything). But if you follow all of them, you're probably a Marxist.
 

drbrumley

Well-known member
Recommended Reading on Marx and Marxism
Thomas DiLorenzo

The Lunatic Left is celebrating Karl Marx’s 200th birthday today. Recommended reading is the book, Requiem for Marx, edited by Yuri Maltsev and published by the Mises Institute.
 
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