How Do Conservatives Feel About Bernie Sanders?

Buzzword

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I post this question because it seems like NO ONE in the rightwing sections of the Internet (or even my own newsfeed), to say nothing of the mainstream media, is talking about Senator Sanders.

Even as he continues to draw the largest crowds nationwide, even in traditional rightwing hotbeds like Arizona and Texas.

In case you haven't heard of him (like, say, because you only watch Faux News or even CNN or MSNBC), here's a breakdown of his platform:
The Platform

So, conservatives, what do you think?
Do you prefer him to Hillary for the Dem nomination?
How does he stack up in your preferences vs. the current horde of Republican hopefuls?

Bring on the flames or hate or love or whatever.
I'm just honestly curious because I've seen ZERO discussion of the senator or his platform or anything related to him.
 

HisServant

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His web site is a whole lot of nothing... like Obama's was.

Its all basically going to drive the mom and pop and small business out of business who are the largest employers in the country.

He is pro-union, but doesn't address the negative affects that unions are having on our law enforcement and public right now.

He suggests no real solution to the wealth gap except pointing it out.

and there are more problems in our elections than just citizens united.
 

The Berean

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He's simply too old to be president. He turns 74 in September which means he'd be well over 75 if he were to take office in January 2017. I said this before and I'll say it again it's likely we'll never have another president born before 1960.
 
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bybee

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I post this question because it seems like NO ONE in the rightwing sections of the Internet (or even my own newsfeed), to say nothing of the mainstream media, is talking about Senator Sanders.

Even as he continues to draw the largest crowds nationwide, even in traditional rightwing hotbeds like Arizona and Texas.

In case you haven't heard of him (like, say, because you only watch Faux News or even CNN or MSNBC), here's a breakdown of his platform:
The Platform

So, conservatives, what do you think?
Do you prefer him to Hillary for the Dem nomination?
How does he stack up in your preferences vs. the current horde of Republican hopefuls?

Bring on the flames or hate or love or whatever.
I'm just honestly curious because I've seen ZERO discussion of the senator or his platform or anything related to him.

You are very insulting. Why would anyone pay attention to what you have to present?
 

rexlunae

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He's simply too old to be president. He turns 74 in September which means he'd be well over 75 if he were to take office in January 2017. I said this before and I'll say it again it's likely we'll ever have another president born before 1960.

I guess I don't see why that would be an issue. Doesn't that just mean the choice of VP should be more important?
 

The Berean

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I guess I don't see why that would be an issue. Doesn't that just mean the choice of VP should be more important?

There's never be a president elected at age 75. The average age of Presidents entering office is just 54 years, 11 months old. Thirty-four of the forty-four presidents entered office before age 60. I wonder who Sanders would select as his running mate?
 

rexlunae

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There's never be a president elected at age 75. The average age of Presidents entering office is just 54 years, 11 months old. Thirty-four of the forty-four presidents entered office before age 60.

Sure, but there'd never been a black President before 2009. There'd never been a Catholic before Kennedy. Presidents are exception enough just because there are so few of them that it's hard to really draw conclusions about what traits are really essential.

Sanders has a lot of vitality, not just for his age, but for any politician.

I wonder who Sanders would select as his running mate?

Warren, maybe. It would be a potent ticket.
 

The Berean

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Sure, but there'd never been a black President before 2009. There'd never been a Catholic before Kennedy. Presidents are exception enough just because there are so few of them that it's hard to really draw conclusions about what traits are really essential.
But being black or being Catholic doesn't hinder one's ability to be president. Being really old can potentially hinder a person being president. Also, JFK is the youngest president ever elected. :p

Sanders has a lot of vitality, not just for his age, but for any politician.
I think there are good reasons that we've never had a 75 year old elected president before. The job is extremely stressful and perhaps there's a natural weeding out of older candidates because of this? I'm just speculating here.

Warren, maybe. It would be a potent ticket.
:think:
 

zoo22

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But being black or being Catholic doesn't hinder one's ability to be president. Being really old can potentially hinder a person being president.

An aside from the topic, but sure being Catholic, or any religion, depending on what they believe and to what extent, can hinder someone's ability to be president. It won't necessarily, but sure it can, and it should be taken into account. I definitely take religious belief into account when I consider someone running for office. I think most people do.

Some of these presidential candidates who believe the earth is 6000 years old? Come on. Of course that sort of denial regarding science and reality can hinder their ability to be president. And that's just a simple example that's an actual issue with candidates. Governor Perry declaring official Texas "pray for rain" days? Seriously? I consider that sort of crazy religiosity ought to be kept a good distance from political office. And those things don't even get close to issue like say... Religious war.

Back to the topic, yes, I agree that Sanders is old to be running for president, at least to the point that it needs to be taken into real consideration, as it was with McCain, who was younger when he was running than Sanders will be. If Sanders was a two-term president, he'd be over 80 while he was in office. And that doesn't even take into account that 8 years in president years is probably about 25 years in normal people years. :plain:

I like Sanders. I don't really think he can win, but I've been surprised at his progress, and I'm not ruling anything out for a while. There's a long way to go. I don't think we'll be seeing much from the Democrats for a while still, I think everyone is stepping back while the GOP implodes under the weight of the Trump show and the spinning head constituents like republicanchick.
 

oatmeal

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I post this question because it seems like NO ONE in the rightwing sections of the Internet (or even my own newsfeed), to say nothing of the mainstream media, is talking about Senator Sanders.

Even as he continues to draw the largest crowds nationwide, even in traditional rightwing hotbeds like Arizona and Texas.

In case you haven't heard of him (like, say, because you only watch Faux News or even CNN or MSNBC), here's a breakdown of his platform:
The Platform

So, conservatives, what do you think?
Do you prefer him to Hillary for the Dem nomination?
How does he stack up in your preferences vs. the current horde of Republican hopefuls?

Bring on the flames or hate or love or whatever.
I'm just honestly curious because I've seen ZERO discussion of the senator or his platform or anything related to him.

He's a liberal, therefore he is wrong 99% of the time
 

rexlunae

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I like Sanders. I don't really think he can win, but I've been surprised at his progress, and I'm not ruling anything out for a while. There's a long way to go. I don't think we'll be seeing much from the Democrats for a while still, I think everyone is stepping back while the GOP implodes under the weight of the Trump show and the spinning head constituents like republicanchick.

I think the Democrats have their tactics arranged all wrong on Sanders. I think he stands a much better chance in the general election than Clinton. The Democrats' impulse is to play it safe, treat Clinton like a fragile egg who can't be challenged on her road to the nomination, and keep their powder dry for the general, but there's really nothing more dangerous to their own chances that they could do.

But perhaps some of the Democrats don't like him because he isn't really a party member.
 

jgarden

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MONEY RAISED BY THE CANDIDATES AND OUTSIDE GROUPS THAT SUPPORT THEM

1 Jeb Bush
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2 Hillary Clinton
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 63.1
CANDIDATE RAISED 47.5
SPENT 18.7
CASH ON HAND 28.9
SUPER PACS RAISED 15.6
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

3 Ted Cruz
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 52.3
CANDIDATE RAISED 14.3
SPENT 5.8
CASH ON HAND 8.5
SUPER PACS RAISED 38.0
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

4 Marco Rubio
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 40.7
CANDIDATE RAISED 8.9
SPENT 3.1
CASH ON HAND 9.9
SUPER PACS RAISED 16.1
OTHER GROUPS RAISED 15.8

5 Scott Walker
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 26.0
CANDIDATE RAISED
SPENT
CASH ON HAND
SUPER PACS RAISED 20.0
OTHER GROUPS RAISED 6.0

6 Rick Perry
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 17.9
CANDIDATE RAISED 1.1
SPENT 0.7
CASH ON HAND 0.9
SUPER PACS RAISED 16.8
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

7 Bernie Sanders
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 15.2
CANDIDATE RAISED 15.2
SPENT 3.1
CASH ON HAND 12.2
SUPER PACS RAISED
OTHER GROUPS RAISED


8 John Kasich
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 11.5
CANDIDATE RAISED
SPENT
CASH ON HAND
SUPER PACS RAISED
OTHER GROUPS RAISED 11.5

9 Chris Christie
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CANDIDATE RAISED
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CASH ON HAND
SUPER PACS RAISED 11.0
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

10 Ben Carson
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 10.6
CANDIDATE RAISED 5.9
SPENT 4.7
CASH ON HAND
SUPER PACS RAISED
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

11 Rand Paul
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 10.1
CANDIDATE RAISED 2.8
SPENT 4.2
CASH ON HAND 3.2
SUPER PACS RAISED 6.9
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

12 Bobby Jindal
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 9.3
CANDIDATE RAISED 0.6
SPENT 0.1
CASH ON HAND 0.5
SUPER PACS RAISED 3.7
OTHER GROUPS RAISED 5.0

13 Mike Huckabee
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 8.0
CANDIDATE RAISED 2.0
SPENT 1.1
CASH ON HAND 0.9
SUPER PACS RAISED 6.0
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

14 Carly Fiorina
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 5.1
CANDIDATE RAISED 1.7
SPENT 0.7
CASH ON HAND 1.0
SUPER PACS RAISED 3.4
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15 Lindsey Graham
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 3.7
CANDIDATE RAISED 3.7
SPENT 1.1
CASH ON HAND 2.6
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16 Martin O’Malley
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CANDIDATE RAISED 2.0
SPENT 0.7
CASH ON HAND 1.3
SUPER PACS RAISED
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17 Donald Trump
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TOTAL RAISED IN MILLIONS 1.9
CANDIDATE RAISED 1.9
SPENT 1.4
CASH ON HAND 0.5
SUPER PACS RAISED
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

18 Rick Santorum
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CANDIDATE RAISED 0.6
SPENT 0.4
CASH ON HAND 0.2
SUPER PACS RAISED
OTHER GROUPS RAISED

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html
The records show that the campaigns of Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Rick Perry, Ben Carson, Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, Carly Fiorina and Mike Huckabee are largely being financed by PAC money - not small, "grassroots" donors.

% of campaign funds raised by candidate from donations of $200 or less
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1. Bernie Sanders (80.7%) - no PAC money
2. Ben Carson (80.2%) - excluding PAC money
3. Rand Paul (64.7%) - excluding PAC money
4. Ted Cruz (47.0%) - excluding PAC money
5. Lincoln Chafee (45.8%) - no PAC money
6. Carly Fiorina (45.3%) - excluding PAC money
7. Donald Trump (40.7%) - no PAC money
8. Mike Huckabee (29.6%) - excluding PAC money
9. Marco Rubio (27.6%) - excluding PAC money
10. Rick Santorum (23.4%) - no PAC money
11. Hillary Clinton (19.0%) - excluding PAC money
12. Bobby Jindal (10.3%) - excluding PAC money
13. Rick Perry (8.4%) - excluding PAC money
14. Lindsey Graham (8.2%) - no PAC money
15. George Pataki (7.3%) - no PAC money
16. Martin O’Malley (4.3%) - no PAC money
17. Jeb Bush (3.3%) - excluding PAC money
 
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aCultureWarrior

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So, conservatives, what do you think?
Do you prefer him to Hillary for the Dem nomination?

Is there a difference between Bernie and Queen Hillary when it comes to social issues? I think not, as they're both pro abortion, pro homosexual, anti family liberals.

Is there a difference between Bernie and Queen Hillary on economic issues? They're both big government socialists; other than Bernie being honest about his socialism by running as a socialist earlier in his political career,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Union_Party

there isn't a hill of beans difference between the two.

Edit:
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bernie_Sanders.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm
 
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The Horn

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Drbrumley , you don't even know what communism is, making you a typical American rightw-ing doofus .
The ultimate form of statism and tyranny is government-ordered compulsory childbirth for pregnant women, even if too poor to provide for children or a pregnancy would kill them or ruin their health .
THIS is slavery - for women . It reduces them to baby-making machines .
Clueless right-wingers like you DrBrumley ,see communism everywhere in America and indiscriminately label anyone who is
evenmoderately liberal a "communist . All this despite the fact that there is nothing even remotely communist about the social and economic programs of the Democratic party . Obama is no more a "communist" than I am Godzilla !
Communism is as dead as a fish on the beach and will never and can never be revivied . China is no longer communist ; it's just a totalitarian dictatorship with a capitalist economy . Russia and the now independent republics of the USSR are now entirely capitalist .
If Obama were a communist , he would have among other things : nationalized every corp-oration in America . Abolished the stock market . Made Christianity illegal as well as all other religions, closed or destroyed churches, synagogues and mosques,
arrested and murdered most of our clergy , abolished all private enterprise, in hsort all the things which happened in the former Soviet Union .,
Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, mark Levin, Sean Hannity , and all his critics would have been arrested and executed . AS well as millions of other people .
How much of this has Obama done ? LOL !!!!
How many guns have been confiscated by the Obama administration so far . Zero. Zip. Nada .
Barney Frank just wants to keep business and industry from creating mass unemployment and poverty in America, which is exactly what they are doing . He wants ot create a fairer ,more equitable America .
Communism is a lousy form of government . But capitalism isn't much better .
 
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