How cows evolved into whales.

The Barbarian

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Barbarian observes:
Just so no one actually goes away with that idea, whales did not evolve from cows. They did, however, evolve from ungulates, (hooved mammals), but they were very much different than cows. The most primitive known whale ancestor was sort of horselike, but had a skull that looked a lot like a primitive whale, including the sigmoid ear bone that all whales (and only whales) have.

Clever typo flame by lighthouse in the original; the slightly dyslexic Barbarian would be properly abashed except...

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hooved. Dictionary.com. WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hooved (accessed: August 08, 2007).


Modern Language Association (MLA):
"hooved." WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. 08 Aug. 2007.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hooved

Lighthouse, you wouldn't be related to Brainy Smurf, by any chance?:rotfl:

Would you like to provide proof of this? Are there pictures of skeletons or carcasses of this animal?

Yes.

http://www.researchcasting.ca/images/pakicetus.JPG

An ungulate, complete with hooves on the tip of each digit. And yet the skull has features found only in whales. Would you like to see a slightly more evolved version?

Oh, and just in case we get another Smurf episode...

hoof /hʊf, huf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hoof, hoof] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural hoofs or hooves for 1, 2, 4; hoof for 3, 7; verb
–noun 1. the horny covering protecting the ends of the digits or encasing the foot in certain animals, as the ox and horse.


A little education is a dangerous thing...
 

chair

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Barbarian observes:
Just so no one actually goes away with that idea, whales did not evolve from cows. They did, however, evolve from ungulates, (hooved mammals), but they were very much different than cows. The most primitive known whale ancestor was sort of horselike, but had a skull that looked a lot like a primitive whale, including the sigmoid ear bone that all whales (and only whales) have.

Clever typo flame by lighthouse in the original; the slightly dyslexic Barbarian would be properly abashed except...

Chicago Manual Style (CMS):
hooved. Dictionary.com. WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hooved (accessed: August 08, 2007).


Modern Language Association (MLA):
"hooved." WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. 08 Aug. 2007.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hooved

Lighthouse, you wouldn't be related to Brainy Smurf, by any chance?:rotfl:



Yes.

http://www.researchcasting.ca/images/pakicetus.JPG

An ungulate, complete with hooves on the tip of each digit. And yet the skull has features found only in whales. Would you like to see a slightly more evolved version?

Oh, and just in case we get another Smurf episode...

hoof /hʊf, huf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hoof, hoof] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural hoofs or hooves for 1, 2, 4; hoof for 3, 7; verb
–noun 1. the horny covering protecting the ends of the digits or encasing the foot in certain animals, as the ox and horse.


A little education is a dangerous thing...

That skeleton was reconstructed by evolutionists (may they burn in hell), out to prove that Genesis is false. What it actually is, when correctly assembled, is the Unicorn of the King James Bible
 

Lighthouse

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You do realize drawings don't prove anything, don't you?

Barbarian observes:
Just so no one actually goes away with that idea, whales did not evolve from cows. They did, however, evolve from ungulates, (hooved mammals), but they were very much different than cows. The most primitive known whale ancestor was sort of horselike, but had a skull that looked a lot like a primitive whale, including the sigmoid ear bone that all whales (and only whales) have.

Clever typo flame by lighthouse in the original; the slightly dyslexic Barbarian would be properly abashed except...

Chicago Manual Style (CMS):
hooved. Dictionary.com. WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hooved (accessed: August 08, 2007).


Modern Language Association (MLA):
"hooved." WordNet® 3.0. Princeton University. 08 Aug. 2007.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hooved

Lighthouse, you wouldn't be related to Brainy Smurf, by any chance?:rotfl:
What are you talking about? It was underlined in red, so I figured it needed checked. What of it?

Yes.

http://www.researchcasting.ca/images/pakicetus.JPG

An ungulate, complete with hooves on the tip of each digit. And yet the skull has features found only in whales. Would you like to see a slightly more evolved version?

Oh, and just in case we get another Smurf episode...

hoof /hʊf, huf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hoof, hoof] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural hoofs or hooves for 1, 2, 4; hoof for 3, 7; verb
–noun 1. the horny covering protecting the ends of the digits or encasing the foot in certain animals, as the ox and horse.


A little education is a dangerous thing...
So, what features does it have that are only found in whales? And, yes, I would like to see some more "evolved" versions. I'd like to see the "process" that took that and turned it into a whale.

Also, if there were no platypuses would you think Ducks and Beavers evolved from them, since they have features that are only found in ducks, and others that are only found in beavers?
 

Jukia

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You do realize drawings don't prove anything, don't you?

Perhaps you should follow up and contact the people who might be doing work on whale evolution and actually make an attempt to see the fossils.

Then again, you do have photos of the ark, no doubt.
 

PlastikBuddha

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Perhaps you should follow up and contact the people who might be doing work on whale evolution and actually make an attempt to see the fossils.

Then again, you do have photos of the ark, no doubt.

Drawings don't prove anything. The partially recorded oral traditions of ancient desert-dwellers constitute iron-clad evidence!
 

Lighthouse

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Drawings don't prove anything. The partially recorded oral traditions of ancient desert-dwellers constitute iron-clad evidence!
Yeah, because some animals no longer exist, so they must have evolved into something else.:rolleyes:

What did the dodo become?
 

Lighthouse

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Perhaps you should follow up and contact the people who might be doing work on whale evolution and actually make an attempt to see the fossils.

Then again, you do have photos of the ark, no doubt.
 
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noguru

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Yeah, because some animals no longer exist, so they must have evolved into something else.:rolleyes:

What did the dodo become?

You know Lighthouse perhaps if you had spent more time learning science than looking at porn you might really understand this evidence.
 

Jukia

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Oh, OK, now I believe, but wait, the dates on those pictures are from July 2007, not several 1000 years ago. I know that NYC was hit pretty hard this morning with rain storms but not sure I am willing to agree that these are really pictures of Noah's Ark.
 

Lighthouse

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You know Lighthouse perhaps if you had spent more time learning science than looking at porn you might really understand this evidence.
What evidence? All I've seen are drawings and one skeleton. None of that proves whatever that thing was evolved into a whale.

And I know I'm guilty of personal attacks, but I have never attacked someone for something they used to do that they have repented of. That's uncalled for.
 

Lighthouse

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Oh, OK, now I believe, but wait, the dates on those pictures are from July 2007, not several 1000 years ago. I know that NYC was hit pretty hard this morning with rain storms but not sure I am willing to agree that these are really pictures of Noah's Ark.
It was a joke. I happened to have uploaded those pix to my ImageShack account last night, and then you asked for pix of Noah's Ark. Opportunity knocked, I answered.:idunno:
 

zoo22

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Oh, OK, now I believe, but wait, the dates on those pictures are from July 2007, not several 1000 years ago. I know that NYC was hit pretty hard this morning with rain storms but not sure I am willing to agree that these are really pictures of Noah's Ark.

It was a joke. I happened to have uploaded those pix to my ImageShack account last night, and then you asked for pix of Noah's Ark. Opportunity knocked, I answered.:idunno:

Anyway, those digital camera dates can be off, especially if the camera is very old, like thousands of years... Also, rain does a real job on digital cameras.

:plain:
 

Nathon Detroit

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Ever notice how evolutionists can never stay on topic?

Ever notice the fascination evolutionists have with Noah's ark?

Typical conversation.....


Creationist: Isn't it a bit far fetched to think that a whale evolved from a cow?

Evolutionist: Not really, after all.... whales have been discovered with vestigial hind legs!

Creationist: Actually that isn't true and here is proof.....

Evolutionist: How did Noah fit all those animals on the ark? Huh??? Huh??? Tell me how he did that. :ha:

Creationist: :sigh:
 
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chair

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Ever notice how evolutionists can never stay on topic?

Ever notice the fascination evolutionists have with Noah's ark?

Typical conversation.....


Creationist: Isn't it a bit far fetched to think that a whale evolved from a cow?

Evolutionist: Not really, after all.... cow's have been discovered with vestigial hind legs!

Creationist: Actually that isn't true and here is proof.....

Evolutionist: How did Noah fit all those animals on the ark? Huh??? Huh??? Tell me how he did that. :ha:

Creationist: :sigh:

Actually, I have found that fundamentalists sometimes tend to avoid actually responding to questions. "Evolutionists" (your term, not theirs), from my experience, tend to stay on topic.
 

Lighthouse

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Ever notice how evolutionists can never stay on topic?

Ever notice the fascination evolutionists have with Noah's ark?

Typical conversation.....


Creationist: Isn't it a bit far fetched to think that a whale evolved from a cow?

Evolutionist: Not really, after all.... cow's have been discovered with vestigial hind legs!

Creationist: Actually that isn't true and here is proof.....

Evolutionist: How did Noah fit all those animals on the ark? Huh??? Huh??? Tell me how he did that. :ha:

Creationist: :sigh:
Shouldn't that say "whales?"
 

noguru

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What evidence? All I've seen are drawings and one skeleton. None of that proves whatever that thing was evolved into a whale.

First off, all drawings were reconstructions made from paleontological evidence. Secondly, it is not proof. It is evidence that such animals did exist. For those who are willing to accept it this is evidence that whales had an ungulate ancestor. For those who need to cling to a YEC view of origins in order to cleanse themselves from the guilt of their past it appears as it does to you.

And I know I'm guilty of personal attacks, but I have never attacked someone for something they used to do that they have repented of. That's uncalled for.

Well if what you use to do has an effect on your current thinking then it still must be considered. It was not an attack, just something I felt should be considered.
 
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