Guns!

[Nick M]

And for a side arm there are many choices in design, not just manufacturers making their own version. You should shoot something before buying it. You might hate how it is in your hand. And take a class.

 

[Nick M]

This is a newer version.

 

[Nick M]

This is the easiest to own.

 

[Nick M]

This is the demilitarized version of the Glock 19X. Because you don't need a lanyard loop.

 

[Nick M]

And for a side arm there are many choices in design, not just manufacturers making their own version. You should shoot something before buying it. You might hate how it is in your hand. And take a class.

I forgot to mention one thing. If you don't know it but watch action movies, that is the pistol officer John McClain had in Die Hard. And the replacement for the beloved M1911, and side arm for the military for about 40 years.

 

[Idolater]

And for a side arm there are many choices in design, not just manufacturers making their own version. You should shoot something before buying it. You might hate how it is in your hand.

Especially with the Glock, with the most forward cant of any pistol I've ever handled.
Also it has no proper safety (firing pin block and trigger safety are great for it not firing when dropped (unless it somehow falls right on an object at the wrong angle, disengaging the trigger safety and pulling the trigger, which seems just as likely as a 1911 falling [directly] on the muzzle, without a firing pin block (Series 70 Colt doesn't have a firing pin block), and firing; but, I've heard of folks accidentally discharging Glocks when putting the pistol into their holster, because something accidentally sticks into the trigger guard and pulls the trigger, as you're pushing the gun into the holster—that doesn't happen with 1911s because of the thumb safety, and the grip safety. One of those is going to be engaged when the same thing happens accidentally to a 1911 being holstered as it does when a Glock is holstered).

Depends whether it's a war theater or not. In theater give me the Glock .45, reliable as all get-out plus higher capacity, but in peace I'll take the 1911.

And take a class.

 

[Idolater]

Depends whether it's a war theater or not. In theater give me the Glock .45, reliable as all get-out plus higher capacity, but in peace I'll take the 1911.

If peace is overcome by war, then it's a good idea to tie down the grip safety on the 1911 until you can get a proper Glock with a large capacity magazine. By large I mean standard. With the grip safety disengaged it's one step closer to boom, like the Glock, which again, if it's war time and you're in theater, is probably a good idea. You could also keep the thumb safety disengaged and then it's just like a Glock except for the external hammer. Pretty much the same thing practically. And the capacity difference. And the cant. But other than all that, pretty similar.

 

[Nick M]

folks accidentally discharging Glocks when putting the pistol into their holster,

That is called a negligent discharge. It only shoots with a full pull to the rear. It doesn't need an external safety. You seem hung up on things your government has told you.

 

[Idolater]

That is called a negligent discharge.

No argument. Only suggesting that when at peace perhaps having a proper safety isn't the worst idea.

It only shoots with a full pull to the rear.

And if something gets inside the trigger guard while you're holstering it, that can and has happened.

It doesn't need an external safety.

And when the situation demands it you can render a cocked 1911 safetyless too, by tying down the grip safety.

You seem hung up on things your government has told you.

Elaborate?

 

[Nick M]

And if something gets inside the trigger guard while you're holstering it, that can and has happened.

Incorrect, just like the rest of your posts. It takes deliberate action of the trigger.

Elaborate?

Yeah, all your idiot posts from the mouth of the beast.

 

[Nick M]

This falls under the fallacy of appeal to authority if used strictly as an argument. But, this is for listening and learning. He said for most, and referenced size. I use the Glock 45, and have the largest grip it comes with on it. But for the masses, the 19 might be best. As I stated, you need to shoot and see what you can use effectively.

 

[Idolater]

Incorrect, just like the rest of your posts. It takes deliberate action of the trigger.

Glock leg. All I was saying is, there's no such thing as "1911 leg" and there's a reason why. But again if we're in theater, then risking Glock leg is probably worth it, but maybe it's not when we're at peace rn. But again again, I'm not going to think anybody's wrong to wear a Glock or even two or three on ankle holsters or dual shoulder rigs or a strong side plus a cross draw plus an ankle—you could have a dual shoulder rig, strong side and cross draw, plus two ankle holsters, all Glocks, and I'm far more impressed than anything else. I'm just saying Glock leg's a real thing. So maybe you do need to be exceptional as an individual. It's a matter of prudence.

 

[Idolater]

Glock 45

Great pistol. Tough to beat with a full capacity supply of mags, the 1911 8-rounders are going to lose in an all out fire fight due to reloading more frequently, but really why are we having a fire fight with pistols anyway? We need our standard issue service rifles for a proper fire fight.

 

[Nick M]

I have a drop leg holster in the unlikely apocalyptic event for my Glock 45. And an IWB for both. I no longer carry the 1911, even with the clearly superior cartridge.