Greenland is Melting Away

[Quetzal]

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Excerpt:

Each year, the federal government spends about $1 billion to support Arctic and Antarctic research by thousands of scientists like Dr. Smith and his team. The agency officials who receive that money from Congress, including the directors of the National Science Foundation, NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, say the research is essential for understanding the changes that will affect the world’s population and economies for more than a century.

But the research is under increasing fire by some Republican leaders in Congress, who deny or question the scientific consensus that human activities contribute to climate change.

 

[Caledvwlch]

Now that is some serious camping. The drone shots were pretty awesome.

 

[ok doser]

Greenland is Melting Away

not the green parts, right?

 

[ok doser]

you know why it's named greenland, right?


because of all that global warming that made it green a thousand years ago when the vikings settled it

 

[patrick jane]

That first river shot was awesome, that water looked so good. I want 20 more feet all over the world

 

[Nick M]

you know why it's named greenland, right?


because of all that global warming that made it green a thousand years ago when the vikings settled it

That is about what I was going to say. Maybe Greenland will be green again.

 

[WizardofOz]

:doh:
How Greenland got its name

 

[ok doser]

:doh::doh:

Interpretation of ice core and clam shell data suggests that between 800 and 1300, the regions around the fjords of southern Greenland experienced a relatively mild climate several degrees Celsius higher than usual in the North Atlantic,[32] with trees and herbaceous plants growing and livestock being farmed. Barley was grown as a crop up to the 70th parallel.[33]

 

[aikido7]

It's a hoax. Pay no attention to "fact-based research." Whatever you believe is true. Not any sort of evidence or honest data allowed.

 

[oatmeal]

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So what?

It was called Greenland for a reason.

It was far more green in times past than it is now.

Greenland may be more green for a while, then as the climate keeps on changing it will cool down again and ice will cover most of Greenland like it has in the past.

The climate changes all the time, it get warmer, as it is now and gets colder (as in Ice Ages)

Pray tell, was it the reduction of carbon emissions from man's reducing burning of fossil fuels that caused the previous ice ages?

or is there a cyclical change in climate?

 

[Quetzal]

So what?

It was called Greenland for a reason.

It has already been posted once, but I will do it again.

http://ancientstandard.com/2010/12/17/how-greenland-got-its-name/

 

[Quetzal]

It's a hoax. Pay no attention to "fact-based research." Whatever you believe is true. Not any sort of evidence or honest data allowed.

Pretty much...

 

[Alate_One]

There's also the issue that globally, the Medieval warm period was not as warm as we are today. In some locations it may have been warmer, than today but that's partly because it was caused by different factors than today.

Midieval Warm Period

 

[ClimateSanity]

There's also the issue that globally, the Medieval warm period was not as warm as we are today. In some locations it may have been warmer, than today but that's partly because it was caused by different factors than today.

Midieval Warm Period

You can say that if you cherry pick a few studies whose methods and analysis are not unassailable.

There are studies that do show the medieval warm period warmer than today.

Denial101x is pure propaganda right up there next to bill nye in terms of credibility.

 

[Quetzal]

Denial101x is pure propaganda right up there next to bill nye in terms of credibility.

It is interesting that you bring up Bill Nye. Why?

 

[Jose Fly]

It's a hoax. Pay no attention to "fact-based research." Whatever you believe is true. Not any sort of evidence or honest data allowed.

Posting data to the fundamentalists here is like trying to teach quantum mechanics to preschoolers. Both are a massive waste of time, guaranteed to only end in frustration (and in both cases, your audience will just call you names).

 

[aikido7]

Posting data to the fundamentalists here is like trying to teach quantum mechanics to preschoolers. Both are a massive waste of time, guaranteed to only end in frustration (and in both cases, your audience will just call you names).

Here are a couple of metaphors that describe the process of change:

1.The mighty oak stands tall and strong in the storm. In a hurricane, that tree can easily be snapped in two by the wind. It is the grasses that bend in the hurricane and so they live to see another day.

2.It takes the additional weight of a single snowflake to land on a load of snow on the branch of a tree. And when that finally happens, the entire load of snow falls shimmering down to the forest floor.

Things--and people's minds--can change in an instant.

Don't give up.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

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Please don't create a thread with just a link.

Do some work..... make a comment, copy a small except from the article, tell us about the point you are making and what your thoughts are.

There is nothing more annoying than opening up a thread and having to go to another site to try and figure out what the thread is about.

 

[Quetzal]

Please don't create a thread with just a link.

Do some work..... make a comment, copy a small except from the article, tell us about the point you are making and what your thoughts are.

There is nothing more annoying than opening up a thread and having to go to another site to try and figure out what the thread is about.

Fixed.

 

[Jose Fly]

Here are a couple of metaphors that describe the process of change:

1.The mighty oak stands tall and strong in the storm. In a hurricane, that tree can easily be snapped in two by the wind. It is the grasses that bend in the hurricane and so they live to see another day.

2.It takes the additional weight of a single snowflake to land on a load of snow on the branch of a tree. And when that finally happens, the entire load of snow falls shimmering down to the forest floor.

Things--and people's minds--can change in an instant.

Don't give up.

It's not a matter of giving up, it's a matter of understanding one's audience. There is research showing that with some folks, showing them data that contradicts their views only makes them hold to their views even more. IOW, it's counterproductive.

Here's a decent read on the subject. The Science of Why We Don't Believe Science