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Ben Masada

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Totton Linnet said:
If God is perfect...what room can there be for evolution? He can only deteriorate

...or create a people with who to share His perfection with
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And He created Israel as His elected one of the Lord. (Habakkuk 3:13)"The Lord went forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One." That's what the Messiah is, the Anointed One of the Lord."
 
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Ben Masada

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CherubRam said:
Yahwah Almighty says, before me no God was formed, nor will there be one after me. In addition He says, there is no God besides me, I know not one. And repeatedly He says that there is no other but Him.
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Now, I wonder how some Christians insist that Jesus was also a god, the second person of the Trinity.
 
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Totton Linnet said:
Isaiah also says

As I live saith the LORD every knee shall bow every tongue confess Me....which Paul attributes to Christ

Peter says it was Christ speaking in the prophets, Jesus says "you read the scriptures and do not know it is Me they are speaking about"
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[FONT=&quot]Isaiah 45:23,24
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]23 By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear. 24 They will say of me, ‘In the Lord (Yahwah) alone are deliverance and strength.’” All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Philippians 2:10-1. NKJV[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"at the name of Jesus" Does not agree with the other scriptures.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Romans 14:11. NIV[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 It is written:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, (Yahwah)
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”[a][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Footnotes:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Romans 14:11 Isaiah 45:23[/FONT]

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Ben Masada

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CherubRam said:
I have told you many times now Ben that the Messiah (Christ) is an ancient being. The nation of Israel includes Gentiles also who are converts. I will get the link for you again. Please read it.
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Where did you get this idea from? Even Jewish traditions don't say any thing about this. And that Jesus was the Messiah, is was an idea from the gospel of Paul. Nothing to do with the reality that Jesus was a Jew. (II Tim. 2:8)
 
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Ben Masada

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CherubRam said:
Yahwah is the only TRUE GOD, however, other persons in heaven whom have life immortal are also called gods.
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See what I mean? That's a perfect example of waste of a Jew's time. Every thing after "however" is not Jewish in this post of yours above. Immortal life belongs with HaShem only and to no other being. If you read Gen.3:22, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden because they could not live forever. Read it.
 
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Ben Masada said:
See what I mean? That's a perfect example of waste of a Jew's time. Every thing after "however" is not Jewish in this post of yours above. Immortal life belongs with HaShem only and to no other being. If you read Gen.3:22, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden because they could not live forever. Read it.
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All who will inherit life immortal will be gods.

Psalm 82:6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”

Genesis 6:2
the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took any they chose as wives for themselves.

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterwards, when the sons of God came to the daughters of men, and who bore children to them. They were powerful men of old, men of renown.

[Nephilim translated means "Fallen ones." They were [men] who were of a very low moral grade.]

Job 1:6
One day the sons of God [men] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.

Job 2:1
One day the sons of God came again to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them to present himself before the LORD.

Job 38:7
while the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Hos 1:10
“Yet the Israelites will be like the sand on the seashore, which cannot be measured or counted. In the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, because they will be called sons of God.

Luke 20:36
For they cannot die anymore, because they are like [angels/messengers] and are sons of God, since they are sons of the resurrection.

Galatians 3:26
for you are all sons of God through faith in Messiah Yashua.

Psalm 82:6
I said, "You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.

John 10:33-34
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
34 Yashua answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'? 35If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?

Yashua was asked if he was the Messiah, he was not asked if he was God. It has always been understood that the Messiah would be a god from Heaven.

John 10:24. The Jews who were there gathered around him, asking, “How long will you keep us in suspense, if you’re the Messiah, tell us plainly?”



Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:19
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Philippians 2:15
That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

1 John 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
 
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