Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"

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annabenedetti

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Of course the demented leftist democrats have plenty of unjustifiable excuses for why they must hide the whole truth from the public. It seems all sorts of crimes and misdemeanors are forever being hidden under cloaks of secrecy when it comes to democrats covering up the truth. You first seemed to think no video was being withheld and now you admit hundreds of videos are being withheld for reasons given by those who would not want the information coming out if the information on the videos shows what conservatives claim they show.

It's quite justifiable to not let the seditionists see details of Capitol security.

And no, I didn't "first seem to think no video was being withheld."

I said it wasn't being withheld "because it contradicts leftist narratives." And then I explained to you why it was being withheld to other than to law enforcement and legislators.

Big difference, no matter how you try to twist it.
 

marke

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It's quite justifiable to not let the seditionists see details of Capitol security.

And no, I didn't "first seem to think no video was being withheld."

I said it wasn't being withheld "because it contradicts leftist narratives." And then I explained to you why it was being withheld to other than to law enforcement and legislators.

Big difference, no matter how you try to twist it.
You are right. Crooked politicians and their supporters and advisors do spin truth into lies that lend support to the false narratives they spin to protect the democrat party and politicians against proper judgment and justice for their crimes.
 

marke

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We have seen that over and over in government reports of official wrongdoing that are heavily redacted to protect the guilty.
I studied the details of what has been made public about the Kennedy assassination and easily became fully convinced those who conspired to murder Kennedy were politicians, government officials, and mobsters who all had strong motives for seeing Kennedy dead. Why is the government still hiding information they have about the assassination from the public? I suspect the reason has more to do with protecting the guilty than anything else. Robert Mueller fought for years to keep an innocent man in prison just to hide the fact that the man was wickedly framed by the FBI with J Edgar Hoover's full consent.


In 1992, former President George H. W. Bush signed into law a bill that declared the federal government should eventually enable the public to access “all government records” concerning Mr. Kennedy’s death.

However, nearly 30 years later, thousands of documents still remain shrouded in secrecy even as tens of thousands of assassination records with various levels of redactions have been released. So far, more than 90% of records detailing the assassination have been released.

Mr. Kennedy was killed while riding in a motorcade in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Former Marine Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested for the murder, but he was assassinated two days later by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, who died in 1967.
 

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Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff


As the House investigation into the Jan. 6 attack heats up, some of the planners of the pro-Trump rallies that took place in Washington, D.C., have begun communicating with congressional investigators and sharing new information about what happened when the former president’s supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. Two of these people have spoken to Rolling Stone extensively in recent weeks and detailed explosive allegations that multiple members of Congress were intimately involved in planning both Trump’s efforts to overturn his election loss and the Jan. 6 events that turned violent.

Rolling Stone separately confirmed a third person involved in the main Jan. 6 rally in D.C. has communicated with the committee. This is the first report that the committee is hearing major new allegations from potential cooperating witnesses. While there have been prior indications that members of Congress were involved, this is also the first account detailing their purported role and its scope. The two sources also claim they interacted with members of Trump’s team, including former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who they describe as having had an opportunity to prevent the violence.

The two sources, both of whom have been granted anonymity due to the ongoing investigation, describe participating in “dozens” of planning briefings ahead of that day when Trump supporters broke into the Capitol as his election loss to President Joe Biden was being certified.

“I remember Marjorie Taylor Greene specifically,” the organizer says. “I remember talking to probably close to a dozen other members at one point or another or their staffs.” . . . .

These two sources also helped plan a series of demonstrations that took place in multiple states around the country in the weeks between the election and the storming of the Capitol. According to these sources, multiple people associated with the March for Trump and Stop the Steal events that took place during this period communicated with members of Congress throughout this process.

Along with Greene, the conspiratorial pro-Trump Republican from Georgia who took office earlier this year, the pair both say the members who participated in these conversations or had top staffers join in included Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), and Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). . . .

The two potential witnesses plan to present to the committee allegations about how these demonstrations were funded and to detail communications between organizers and the White House. According to both sources, members of Trump’s administration and former members of his campaign team were involved in the planning. Both describe Katrina Pierson, who worked for Trump’s campaign in 2016 and 2020, as a key liaison between the organizers of protests against the election and the White House.
 

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Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff


As the House investigation into the Jan. 6 attack heats up, some of the planners of the pro-Trump rallies that took place in Washington, D.C., have begun communicating with congressional investigators and sharing new information about what happened when the former president’s supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. Two of these people have spoken to Rolling Stone extensively in recent weeks and detailed explosive allegations that multiple members of Congress were intimately involved in planning both Trump’s efforts to overturn his election loss and the Jan. 6 events that turned violent.

Rolling Stone separately confirmed a third person involved in the main Jan. 6 rally in D.C. has communicated with the committee. This is the first report that the committee is hearing major new allegations from potential cooperating witnesses. While there have been prior indications that members of Congress were involved, this is also the first account detailing their purported role and its scope. The two sources also claim they interacted with members of Trump’s team, including former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who they describe as having had an opportunity to prevent the violence.

The two sources, both of whom have been granted anonymity due to the ongoing investigation, describe participating in “dozens” of planning briefings ahead of that day when Trump supporters broke into the Capitol as his election loss to President Joe Biden was being certified.

“I remember Marjorie Taylor Greene specifically,” the organizer says. “I remember talking to probably close to a dozen other members at one point or another or their staffs.” . . . .

These two sources also helped plan a series of demonstrations that took place in multiple states around the country in the weeks between the election and the storming of the Capitol. According to these sources, multiple people associated with the March for Trump and Stop the Steal events that took place during this period communicated with members of Congress throughout this process.

Along with Greene, the conspiratorial pro-Trump Republican from Georgia who took office earlier this year, the pair both say the members who participated in these conversations or had top staffers join in included Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), and Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). . . .

The two potential witnesses plan to present to the committee allegations about how these demonstrations were funded and to detail communications between organizers and the White House. According to both sources, members of Trump’s administration and former members of his campaign team were involved in the planning. Both describe Katrina Pierson, who worked for Trump’s campaign in 2016 and 2020, as a key liaison between the organizers of protests against the election and the White House.
Anonymous sources quoted by democrats are commonly either not real or they are liars. Other crooks and liars can claim they were with Trump while their real motivations to join the leftists have nothing to do with honesty, truth, or accuracy.
 

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Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) has washed his hands of any involvement in the planning of the rally that immediately preceded the Capitol riot—but said his staff might have been involved. Brooks was named in Sunday night’s explosive Rolling Stone report that claimed two unnamed organizers of fateful Jan. 6 rally are cooperating with congressional investigators and have reportedly accused multiple members of Congress of being closely involved in the event’s planning.

 

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The National Archives is set to begin handing over the records to the House panel investigating the riot on Nov. 12, unless the courts intervene. Trump has filed a lawsuit to stop the National Archives from cooperating.

 

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January 6: At least five former Trump White House staffers are talking to the House committee

At least five former Trump administration staffers have voluntarily spoken with the House committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol . . . .

News of the outreach comes as Trump is engaged in a legal battle over the committee's investigation. Trump has sued the committee and the National Archives in an attempt to shield documents from them.

And an attorney for the former President recently instructed four former Trump administration officials -- Mark Meadows, Dan Scavino, Stephen Bannon and Kash Patel -- not to provide any testimony or documents to the investigative panel, claiming they are protected "from disclosure by the executive and other privileges, including among others the presidential communications, deliberative process, and attorney-client privileges."
 

annabenedetti

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Former Republican political strategist Steve Schmidt:

"The architecture of the present crisis and the ominous waypoints ahead are clear. No matter the outcome of the next Presidential election, the GOP nominee, likely Trump, will refuse to concede a clear defeat. Allegations of fraud will be made without evidence.

GOP officials will be prepared to act in furtherance of that lie at all levels of government including State Legislatures and the Congress. It is important to remember that the people stealing the election won’t announce their intentions as such. They will lie about an election
being stolen in the name of fairness, in defense of democracy and for the cause of freedom. Violence and Mayhem will certainly result from this repudiation of patriotism and the Constitution.

The chances of success for a successful coup, for which there was a plan and WH meetings in 2020 will be much higher in 2024. Should an autocratic faction that has abandoned its commitment to elections, the rule of law, decency, reality, pluralism, equality and the US Constitution come to power in America again, whether legitimately or not, there will be one last chance to decisively turn back from the abyss and vote them out. The ultimate crisis will come when Trump or whoever refuses to yield power after the will of the people is asserted. Both crises are within view of where we sit today."
 

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Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) has washed his hands of any involvement in the planning of the rally that immediately preceded the Capitol riot—but said his staff might have been involved. Brooks was named in Sunday night’s explosive Rolling Stone report that claimed two unnamed organizers of fateful Jan. 6 rally are cooperating with congressional investigators and have reportedly accused multiple members of Congress of being closely involved in the event’s planning.

One legislator showed a film clip of a government agent inciting rioters on Jan 6 to storm the Capitol. When asked why Garland had not had that man arrested Garland make a couple of excuses, such as he pled ignorance and he also said he could not comment on ongoing investigations. I guess that means Garland locks up whomever he wants to and keeps them locked up without a trial for as long as he wants while refusing to discuss their detention due to the ongoing investigation. Garland is more of a jackbooted Nazi than American.
 

marke

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The National Archives is set to begin handing over the records to the House panel investigating the riot on Nov. 12, unless the courts intervene. Trump has filed a lawsuit to stop the National Archives from cooperating.

Courts should demand the democrats hand over all videos, not just the ones they have picked out to promote their lopsided narratives of what happened on Jan. 6.
 

marke

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Nothing says "I have something to hide" like suing to keep the National Archives from handing over presidential records.
Nothing says "I have something to hide" than refusing to allow investigators access to the voting machines that recorded suspiciously outlandish numbers of Biden votes.
 
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