Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"

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Senate Hearing on the Capitol attack of Jan. 6: currently testifying are Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, former Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, former House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and Robert Contee, the acting chief of police for the Metropolitan Police Department.

Senator Amy Klobuchar:

“Based on what we know now, including the recent department of justice indictments, do you agree that there is now clear evidence that supports the conclusion that the January 6th insurrection was planned and it was a coordinated attack on the U.S. Capitol?”

“Would you agree that this attack involved white supremacists and extremist groups?”

“Would you agree that this was a highly dangerous situation which was horrific, but could have actually been worse without the courage of the officers that you commanded?”

All four officials agreed to each question.
 

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A Donald Trump fan caught on camera brawling with police officers during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was charged by the feds this week after he bragged about his conduct on a Trump fan site and pushed back on the online conspiracy theory that undercover “antifa” members were behind the violence.

Jose Padilla faces several charges, including felony counts of obstruction of law enforcement during a civil disorder and assault on a law enforcement officer with a deadly or dangerous weapon. Federal officials say he pushed up against the police line while wearing a scuba mask and shoved officers trying to stop the pro-Trump mob from storming the Capitol. He also helped rioters use a giant metal-framed Trump sign as a battering ram against officers on the police line, and threw a flagpole at officers trying to keep the mob out of the building.

The feds said Padilla used the website TheDonald.win, which was created after the subreddit r/The_Donald was placed on restricted mode last year. He also posted about his support for Trump on Facebook.

“There’s a lot of memes and posts flying around saying that the people who were fighting last night were all Antifa provacateurs etc. I just want to say that as a first hand observer of every point of last night, that it was not Antifa. They were Patriots who were trying to Restore the Republic after being attacked by the cops, who struck first,” Padilla wrote on Facebook, according to the feds. “Even those who broke the windows next to the doorway to the Capitol were Patriots trying to find a way to turn the Flanks of the cops.”

On the online forum TheDonald.win, Padilla wrote about his involvement in the attack, saying that he “pushed the rails,” “pushed the stairs,” and “pushed the doorway.”

“I was beaten unconscious twice, sprayed more times than I care to count, received strikes from batons that should have been lethal (Multiple temple and carotid strikes) except that God was on my side,” Padilla wrote, the feds say.

Padilla also worked to correct the record about online rumors that “Antifa” was somehow responsible for the pro-Trump mob’s efforts.

“Honestly, the guy breaking the windows weren’t Antifa,” he wrote. “They were Patriots trying to find a new way in so we could flank the cops who were holding the doorway.”
 
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Retired NYPD Cop Once Assigned to Secure City Hall Accused of Pipe Attack on Capitol Police


A retired NYPD officer who had been assigned for a time to work perimeter security at City Hall and at Gracie Mansion, the mayor's official residence, has been accused of using a pipe to attack a U.S. Capitol officer during the Jan. 6 siege, law enforcement officials with knowledge of the case told News 4 Tuesday.

Thomas Webster surrendered to the FBI's Hudson Valley office Monday to face charges in the ongoing investigation. A day later in White Plains federal court, prosecutors said the former U.S. Marine attacked a Capitol police officer with an aluminum pole while holding a Marine Corps flag. Webster then allegedly ripped off a mask and caused the officer to choke, proseuctors said.

Webster was seen in body camera footage carrying a large metal flagpole with a red U.S. Marines flag attached to it, according to a criminal complaint. It alleges that Webster berated a Capitol police officer with a curse-laden diatribe, as he "aggressively" shoved a metal barricade into the officer and armed himself with the metal rod.

The alleged rioter then brings the flagpole above his head and swings it downward, striking the metal barrier right in front of the officer, the complaint reads. Webster then attempted to attack the officer by lunging toward him with the flagpole, striking the cop several times, according to the criminal complaint.

The cop is eventually able to wrestle the pole away from Webster, and begins retreating further behind the barricades. But that doesn't stop the attack, the papers allege, as Webster breaks through the barriers and charges right at the officer with "clenched fists." He lunges again at the law enforcement officer and tackles him to the ground, where Webster allegedly attacks him for 10 seconds, the complaint reads.

Different angles on social media allegedly show Webster pinning the officer to the ground and straddling him while he tries to forcefully remove the face shield and gas mask. The officer later said that the helmet stayed on due to the chin strap, which began to choke him during part of the alleged assault, according to the criminal complaint.

Webster is later seen in a video that was posted to YouTube on a staircase leading to the Capitol building, the complaint says, saying into the camera "Send more patriots. We need some help."


Charging documents
 

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So you made a thread for the "false flag" video (you've been sucked down into the youtube vortex just like patrick jane), and predictably my post in reply of the MAGAdude's insistence the insurrection was the work of 'patriots' and not antifa was deleted.

Well, here's another refutation of your stupid false flag:

Close ally of Marjorie Taylor Greene among those in Capitol mob

Anthony Aguero, a conservative livestreamer, activist and associate of Greene, said on video following the January 6 assault on the Capitol that he had been among those who entered and attacked those who falsely claimed it was done by "Antifa."
"We were all there. It was not Antifa and it was not BLM. It was Trump supporters that did that yesterday. I'm the first to admit it, being one myself," said Aguero in a video posted on January 7.
"I walked amongst all those people," he added, later defending entering the Capitol.
Greene and Aguero have worked closely together over the years on causes such as immigration and the border wall and have attended pro-Trump rallies together. In many since-deleted videos saved by CNN's KFile, Greene repeatedly calls Aguero "amazing" and a "friend." On social media, Aguero has called Greene "one of my closest friends."​

Those MAGA are proud of their insurrection, and you're trying to take it away from them and they don't like that. It would be funny if it wasn't so seditious.
 

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GOP lawmaker's husband linked to Three Percenter pickup parked outside Capitol during insurrection

A pickup truck bearing a Three Percenter militia sticker that was parked outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 has been traced to the husband of a Hitler-quoting Republican lawmaker.

Rep. Mary Miller (R-IL) gained infamy two days after she was sworn in -- and one day before the deadly riot -- by saying Adolf Hitler "was right on one thing," and the militia-endorsing pickup was linked to her husband by the @capitolhunters Twitter account that's crowd-sourcing efforts to identify participants in the insurrection, reported The Daily Beast.

"Army friend gave me decal. Thought it was a cool decal. Took it off because of negative pub," said Chris Miller, the congresswoman's husband and himself a member of the Illinois House of Representatives, in an email statement to The Beast.


Chris Miller insists he was never a member of the loosely organized anti-government militia, and claims he "didn't know anything about 3% till fake news started this fake story and read about them."

The state lawmaker's pickup was photographed outside the Capitol, which is inaccessible to regular vehicle traffic, raised questions about who it belonged to and how it got there.
 

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Even Trump’s Defense Secretary During the Capitol Riot Blames Him for Inciting It

Former Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller told VICE on Showtime he believes Trump’s speech caused the violent mob to attack the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

One of the most senior Cabinet officials in the Trump administration, Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, has told VICE on Showtime that he believes the speech made by former President Donald Trump on the morning of January 6 was responsible for causing the mob to violently attack the Capitol later that day.

Trump installed Miller after firing his predecessor Mark Esper in the days after the election. Speaking exclusively to VICE on Showtime, Miller said, “Would anybody have marched on the Capitol, and tried to overrun the Capitol, without the president’s speech? I think it’s pretty much definitive that wouldn’t have happened.”




Gotta wonder if Miller's setting up his defense.
 

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Even Trump’s Defense Secretary During the Capitol Riot Blames Him for Inciting It

Former Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller told VICE on Showtime he believes Trump’s speech caused the violent mob to attack the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

One of the most senior Cabinet officials in the Trump administration, Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, has told VICE on Showtime that he believes the speech made by former President Donald Trump on the morning of January 6 was responsible for causing the mob to violently attack the Capitol later that day.

Trump installed Miller after firing his predecessor Mark Esper in the days after the election. Speaking exclusively to VICE on Showtime, Miller said, “Would anybody have marched on the Capitol, and tried to overrun the Capitol, without the president’s speech? I think it’s pretty much definitive that wouldn’t have happened.”
Please quote me a single sentence during that speech where Trump advocated (er, um, incited) a riot.
 

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“The president was trying to stage a coup. There was little chance of it happening, but there was enough chance that the former defense secretaries had to put out that letter, which was the final nail through that effort. They prevented the military from being involved in any coup attempt. But instead, Trump tried to incite it himself,” said Fiona Hill, Trump’s former top Russia adviser. “This could have turned into a full-blown coup had he had any of those key institutions following him. Just because it failed or didn’t succeed doesn’t mean it wasn’t real.”



Trump Officials Rush to Keep Him From Sparking Another Conflict—at Home or Abroad


High-ranking national-security officials have spent the last 24 hours scrambling to figure out how to keep their commander-in-chief, Donald Trump, from inciting further violence at home, spilling national secrets, or sparking last-minute confrontations with international foes.

The concerns in the upper echelons of the administration’s national-security community range from fears inside the Pentagon that the president will do or say something that effectively throws the U.S. into a military confrontation with another country to anxieties in the intelligence apparatus that Trump will divulge classified intelligence on his way out, according to four officials who spoke with The Daily Beast about the matter. All requested to remain anonymous in order to speak more openly about the discussions.

“This isn’t a hypothetical anymore,” said one senior administration official. “This is real. What happened yesterday changed the calculus. People are concerned about [the president’s] state of mind.”



Much more at the link.


“Yesterday was the worst day for the Republican Party since Lincoln’s assassination.”
— Joe Grogan, Trump’s former top domestic policy adviser
We are finding that wishy-washy republicans and hard-core leftist commies fully believe Trump committed treason because a mixed mob of political activists did a little bit of property damage at the Capitol on Jan. 6. Anyone who fails to see the folly in such deliberate attacks driven by dishonest corrupt partisan propaganda is simply unwise.
 

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It is heart-rending the repeated accounts of police officers being assaulted and murdered by deranged gangsters. I blame this on the devil and sinners who choose to side with the devil by rejecting Jesus as Lord and Savior. More than a thousand police officers were brutally assaulted and injured in 2020 alone.
 

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"For no reason?" You see "no reason" to attack his character? His character brought us to where we are.

I'm curious. Will it be all right to attack his character after 1/20 when he's no longer president? Is this hands-off because he's the president, or because he's Trump?
Democrat demons cannot understand why it is wrong to hate a legally elected president of the US for four years and file all sorts of false charges against him. They are like devotees to Hitler who saw nothing wrong with murdering Jews or supporters of Planned Parenthood who see nothing wrong with murdering unborn babies in the womb.
 

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Senate Hearing on the Capitol attack of Jan. 6: currently testifying are Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, former Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, former House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and Robert Contee, the acting chief of police for the Metropolitan Police Department.

Senator Amy Klobuchar:

“Based on what we know now, including the recent department of justice indictments, do you agree that there is now clear evidence that supports the conclusion that the January 6th insurrection was planned and it was a coordinated attack on the U.S. Capitol?”

“Would you agree that this attack involved white supremacists and extremist groups?”

“Would you agree that this was a highly dangerous situation which was horrific, but could have actually been worse without the courage of the officers that you commanded?”

All four officials agreed to each question.
When one government official says one thing and another says something different, there is obviously cause to question both accounts. Truth can be perverted by bias, bad judgment, poor judgment, ignorance or other things. Just because one or a hundred people say something similar does not mean they are right, especially if there are reasonable evidences and arguments to the contrary.
 
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