Yes, I have a sense of humorYou're a funny guy.
I hope that you come to faith someday.
Even when you don't realize it.Yes, I have a sense of humor
You have a false faith if you do not believe that Christ is God.I have already received the measure of faith.
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
According to your opinion and misrepresentation and private interpretation of scripture, yes.Even when you don't realize it.
You have a false faith if you do not believe that Christ is God.
I gave you clear and unambiguous scripture. Nothing the slightest bit "misrepresented" or "privately interpreted" about it.According to your opinion and misrepresentation and private interpretation of scripture, yes.
According to scripture alone, NO.
You stated that very well. Thank you!I agree that God does not forget our sins in a literal sense.
Summary: When God ‘remembers’ things in the Bible, it is clear that he had not previously ‘forgotten’ them, and therefore that ‘remember’ means something more like ‘to bring to mind’, and nearly always precedes some kind of loving or blessing. To ‘remember sins no more’ therefore doesn’t mean to literally forget that they exist or were done, but to cease considering them or thinking of them.
The experiential outcome is the same... God has fully forgiven and no longer cares about our confessed sins.
I think the two keys in this debate are:
1. Biblical: Isaiah 43:25 and Hebrews 8:12 promise God will ‘remember our sins no more.’ - This is what triggers in some the belief that God literally forgets our sins, to the degree that He no longer knows they occurred.
2. Logical: Is it logical that God literally forgets our sins?
Let’s quickly break this down:
Firstly, regarding point 1, the critical message in the scripture is that God’s dealing with our sins is so strong, that he not only forgives them, but ceases to even think about them or consider them. If even God doesn’t think about our confessed sins, we certainly need not dwell on them ourselves. ‘Forget’ (figuratively) about them and leave them behind you. They’re dealt with.
The non-critical topic here is does God literally forget the sins? I call this non-critical, because it doesn’t have much effect on our experience. Although I’ve heard of someone condemning himself for not being able to fully forgive someone, thinking they had failed to do so because they couldn’t ‘forget’ the offence. This does show that this teaching can have an experiential effect on a believer.
Regarding point 2, I believe it is not logical that literally forgets our sins. God knows our thoughts; if we think of our sins, is God reminded about them and has to forget them again? Or more directly, does God forget his own word (the Bible), where all the transgressions and sins of Israel are recorded through inspiration from God Himself?
Theological truth is logical (it can be mysterious, and not understood, but should never defy logic). So if a teaching seems illogical, it prompts interrogation. And logical or not, I believe this is made clear in scripture anyway:
The key realisation to solve this puzzle easily, is to learn what remember or remembrance means in the Bible. This should antonymously show us what it means to cease remembering something:
Genesis 8:1, “God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that were with him in the ark,” and sent a wind that caused the floodwaters to recede.
In Genesis 30:22, we are told, “God remembered Rachel,” Jacob’s wife, and “enabled her to conceive.” Her child, Joseph, was a man of God who saved His people even after they sold him into Egyptian slavery.
In Exodus 2:24, God heard the groaning of His people, Israel, who were slaves in Egypt, and “He remembered His covenant with Abraham, with Isaac and with Jacob,”
It’s very clear in these few examples that God had not literally ‘forgotten’ the things which were being remembered (Noah, the wild animals, Rachel, His covenant with Abraham). Rather He was not actively caring for them in the particular way mentioned after the ‘remembering’.
Therefore, remembering here is more of a ‘bringing something to mind’ or ‘considering and caring for’.
Now that we can comfortably see that remembrance is not a literal “Oh! That’s right! I forgot about that!”, combined with the clarification that literal forgetting of sins by God would not be logical, we can conclude that ‘remember no more’ in Isaiah 43:25 and Hebrews 8:12 means that God will no longer consider, think about or care about our forgiven sins.
I hope the examples of remembrance are helpful to people.
I must emphasise that the message and strength of the word remains the same.
I'm only saying to you, what Jesus says to you. Unless you believe that He is God in the flesh, you will die in your sins.So what are you trying to say?
The underlined is not in the Bible. Are you claiming special revelation?I'm only saying to you, what Jesus says to you. Unless you believe that He is God in the flesh, you will die in your sins.
This translation was from trinitarians:"By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God"
Are you planning to take your Bible with you to heaven?The God forgive Saul of Tarsus for persecuting the church?
It would seem so
Yet God has the record of Saw persecuting the church written in the word of God
This is the sole verse used to say God forgets sin. Although many translations don't put this in verse form, they do put the quote of this passage in Hebrews in verse form. So, this verse has at least two Hebrew couplets.If one truly repents!
"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more" (Jer. 31:34)