ECT Does 'fulfilled prophecy' reinforce the Bible?

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Yeah, and peace is breakin' out all over!

Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

Colossians 3:15
Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful.
 

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Yeah, and peace is breakin' out all over!
Some just don't want to believe that God will keep his promises.
And if one cannot rely on God keeping his promises to Israel, then one cannot rely on God to keep His promises to the BOC.
One could just spiritualize those promises away too.
 

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Some just don't want to believe that God will keep his promises.
And if one cannot rely on God keeping his promises to Israel, then one cannot rely on God to keep His promises to the BOC.
One could just spiritualize those promises away too.

God keeps His promises.

All nationalities have a chance to be saved through the promised Savior Christ.

Read this scripture carefully:

John 1:13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.


Did you read how it says not by natural descent?

That is about blood relations.

You speak of how God has yet to fulfill His promise to those who claim blood relations to Abraham, but the promise is Jesus Christ, and no more is it about blood relations.
 

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It does not matter anymore if anyone has some distant blood relation to Abraham.

There is not even Jews anymore as the Jews from the Bible times.

The Jews nowadays listen to rabbis who speak things from their own imaginations, for God is not speaking to them anymore, they have been cut off from God and bound to the place of disobedient Gentiles.
 

Tambora

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God keeps His promises.
Every single one of them He made to Israel will come to be.



You speak of how God has yet to fulfill His promise to those who claim blood relations to Abraham.
No, I do not.
You lie.

Abraham had several children.
The promises were through only one of them, Isaac.

And not all children of Issac did the promises go through, but only Jacob/Israel.

No one has said that the promises were to every blood descendant of Abe.
You should pay closer attention.
 

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Every single one of them He made to Israel will come to be.



No, I do not.
You lie.

Abraham had several children.
The promises were through only one of them, Isaac.

And not all children of Issac did the promises go through, but only Jacob/Israel.

No one has said that the promises were to every blood descendant of Abe.
You should pay closer attention.

Then who does not receive yet the promises of God?
 

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The Jews who were cut off from God, and go on without Him, listening to Rabbis besides the last Rabbi, Jesus Christ...they are no longer spoken to by God. God speaks to us through Jesus Christ.

So tell me, just how do you think God has not fulfilled His promise to Israel.
 

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Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the promise.

Have you ever read what the nowadays 'rabbis' have written about Jesus Christ?

Do you really believe that God is with such blasphemy against His Son?
 

Tambora

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Every single one of them He made to Israel will come to be.


No, I do not.
You lie.

Abraham had several children.
The promises were through only one of them, Isaac.

And not all children of Issac did the promises go through, but only Jacob/Israel.

No one has said that the promises were to every blood descendant of Abe.
You should pay closer attention.

Then who does not receive yet the promises of God?
Do you not see that we do not teach that every promise was for every blood descendant of Abe?
Only through his son Issac.
And not every blood descendant of Isaac.
Only through his son Jacob/Israel.
 

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Do you not see that we do not teach that every promise was for every blood descendant of Abe?
Only through his son Issac.
And not every blood descendant of Isaac.
Only through his son Jacob/Israel.

Those through Jacob are THOSE BLOOD RELATED.

Those to ABRAHAM are those BLOOD RELATED AND THOSE WHO HAVE FAITH.
 

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Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the promise.

Have you ever read what the nowadays 'rabbis' have written about Jesus Christ?

Do you really believe that God is with such blasphemy against His Son?
I believe God will keep every promise He made to the ones He made those promises to.
You should too.
 

Tambora

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Those through Jacob are THOSE BLOOD RELATED.
Jacob was not his only blood descendant.
The promises to Abe were passed through only one of his sons (Isaac).
And only one son of Isaac were the promises passed through (Jacob).
Why can't you see that?

Why did you lie and say we teach that the promises to Abe included all blood descendants of Abe, when we don't?
Why do you continue that lie?
 

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Tambora, you are acting as the Jews who missed their Messiah.
Jesus is the Messiah---and the promise has already been given.
 

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Jacob was not his only blood descendant.
The promises to Abe were passed through only one of his sons (Isaac).
And only one son of Isaac were the promises passed through (Jacob).
Why can't you see that?

Why did you lie and say we teach that the promises to Abe included all blood descendants of Abe, when we don't?
Why do you continue that lie?

I do not do what you say I do.

You are the one separating people by their blood relations, their nationalities!

Jesus made the two one BY HIS BODY.

Isaac was born from a PROMISE.

The PROMISE has been given.

The promise is Jesus Christ.
 

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Jesus is the promise.

That means Jesus is the promise, and he is blood related from Isaac's side.

The promised Savior is blood related from the promised son, Isaac.

How do you ever get there is yet a promise to be fulfilled?
 

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The only blood relation that matters anymore is the blood of the Lamb.

It no longer matters to whom we are descended from.
 

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Tambora, you are acting as the Jews who missed their Messiah.

Jesus is the Messiah---and the promise has already been given.
You lie again.

I have no doubt that some of the Jews do not accept Jesus as the promised Messiah.

But the promise of the Messiah is not the only promise made, now is it?


When God promised Noah He would cause a flood, it wasn't just some spiritual flood, now was it?
It was a literal, physical, and historical flood.
 

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You lie again.

I have no doubt that some of the Jews do not accept Jesus as the promised Messiah.

But the promise of the Messiah is not the only promise made, now is it?


When God promised Noah He would cause a flood, it wasn't just some spiritual flood, now was it?
It was a literal, physical, and historical flood.

Do you know what cut off means?

Do you know what human descent no longer matters means?

Do you know what the promise is?
 
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