Quite apart from Paul. We have John. John said that after Jesus' crucifixion and rise to heaven, the Spirit of Truth will come and be made available to Christians/Saints. Obviously this is not Jesus in a physical body.
John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
The following revelation from John, says that Jesus is the truth and no one comes onto the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, without going through Jesus.
John 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Therefore if we take John to his words, then:
Since Jesus is the truth and since no one comes onto God, who is the Holy Spirit, without going through Jesus, then;
Jesus was carded to return, clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit of Truth, to make intercession on behalf of Saints/Christians with, God, who is the Holy Spirit. And to inform and guide Christians/Saints (Jesus was talking very privately to only the disciples).
Also one is told that God is the Holy Spirit and one must worship God in spirit and truth. The only way to worship God/the Holy Spirit in 'spirit and truth' is by going through the Spirit of Truth, who is the Spirit of Jesus. This is the only way.
Indeed, how else will one worship "in both spirit and truth" if one does not worship through the Spirit of Jesus, (given that Jesus is the truth).
The above is backed up by Paul. Therefore Paul does not stand alone on this revelation/idea, of Jesus rising to heaven clad only in His Spirit body. Paul is backed up by John according to the above. This is what Paul says:
1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/ Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/ Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/ Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
"WatchmanOnTheWall" want us to throw out or change all of the above revelations simply to sneakily, have us corruptly believe that Jesus is in heaven in a physical body.
Is it not very clear that Jesus is the Truth. And no one come onto God but through Jesus. Therefore Jesus also the one who Intercedes.
Therefore, the Spirit of Truth must be the Spirit of Jesus, And the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth must also be the Spirit of Intercession.
And since Jesus rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body., 'the Spirit' who makes intercession for Saints/Christians (in Romans: 8 verses: 26 & 27 KJV N.T., above) must be the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession . . . And not Jesus in a physical body. And not the Holy Spirit.
Clearly this idea that Jesus is in spirit heaven in a physical body would be ludicrous, if it was not so absolutely and fatally deceiving.
Christians (i.e. those who are in Christ) differs nothing from the Jesus Christ, except for one things, i.e. Jesus is Lord of all. Christians are expected to do what Jesus Christ did and even better things. The very least that they will do is to rise to spirit heaven in three days after physical death, clad only in their spirit bodies, to be like angels in heaven:
Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
You guys would have to be suggesting that when Christians die they also rise in three days, in physical bodies. I am sure that you guys can find the dead bodies of Christians in their graves, and so disprove your foolish idea.
One does not need any other 'scripture' to get the above truth, unless one is trying to corrupt authentic Christianity, based on some made-up 'half baked' lettered discerned works.
John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
The following revelation from John, says that Jesus is the truth and no one comes onto the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, without going through Jesus.
John 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Therefore if we take John to his words, then:
Since Jesus is the truth and since no one comes onto God, who is the Holy Spirit, without going through Jesus, then;
Jesus was carded to return, clad only in His Spirit body, as the Spirit of Truth, to make intercession on behalf of Saints/Christians with, God, who is the Holy Spirit. And to inform and guide Christians/Saints (Jesus was talking very privately to only the disciples).
Also one is told that God is the Holy Spirit and one must worship God in spirit and truth. The only way to worship God/the Holy Spirit in 'spirit and truth' is by going through the Spirit of Truth, who is the Spirit of Jesus. This is the only way.
Indeed, how else will one worship "in both spirit and truth" if one does not worship through the Spirit of Jesus, (given that Jesus is the truth).
The above is backed up by Paul. Therefore Paul does not stand alone on this revelation/idea, of Jesus rising to heaven clad only in His Spirit body. Paul is backed up by John according to the above. This is what Paul says:
1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/ Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/ Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/ Spirit of truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
"WatchmanOnTheWall" want us to throw out or change all of the above revelations simply to sneakily, have us corruptly believe that Jesus is in heaven in a physical body.
Is it not very clear that Jesus is the Truth. And no one come onto God but through Jesus. Therefore Jesus also the one who Intercedes.
Therefore, the Spirit of Truth must be the Spirit of Jesus, And the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth must also be the Spirit of Intercession.
And since Jesus rose to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body., 'the Spirit' who makes intercession for Saints/Christians (in Romans: 8 verses: 26 & 27 KJV N.T., above) must be the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession . . . And not Jesus in a physical body. And not the Holy Spirit.
Clearly this idea that Jesus is in spirit heaven in a physical body would be ludicrous, if it was not so absolutely and fatally deceiving.
Christians (i.e. those who are in Christ) differs nothing from the Jesus Christ, except for one things, i.e. Jesus is Lord of all. Christians are expected to do what Jesus Christ did and even better things. The very least that they will do is to rise to spirit heaven in three days after physical death, clad only in their spirit bodies, to be like angels in heaven:
Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
You guys would have to be suggesting that when Christians die they also rise in three days, in physical bodies. I am sure that you guys can find the dead bodies of Christians in their graves, and so disprove your foolish idea.
One does not need any other 'scripture' to get the above truth, unless one is trying to corrupt authentic Christianity, based on some made-up 'half baked' lettered discerned works.
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