ECT Do You Confess Your Sins?

[Jerry Shugart]

We know that those in the Body of Christ can become defiled in their "walk" so doesn't that mean that once a Christian sins then he is no longer holy?:

"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor.7:1).​

Are Christian not to confess their sin so that they can have their sins taken away and cleansed from all unrighteousness?:

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to remit us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 Jn.1:9).​

 

[Right Divider]

We know that those in the Body of Christ can become defiled in their "walk" so doesn't that mean that once a Christian sins then he is no longer holy?:

"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor.7:1).​

Are Christian not to confess their sin so that they can have their sins taken away and cleansed from all unrighteousness?:

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to remit us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 Jn.1:9).​

You are so confused Jerry. I'm just amazed at times.

The WE and US in John is Israel. This lines up perfectly with what God had told them long ago.

(2Ch 7:14 KJV) If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
​

Who was the "my people" that God was talking to?

John expected "his people" to confess THEIR sins to that God could forgive THEIR sins and heal THEIR land.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

You are so confused Jerry. I'm just amazed at times.

The WE and US in John is Israel.

You are the one who remains confused!

By the time John's epistles were written Israel had already been temporarily set aside:

"For if the casting aside of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?" (Ro.11:15).​

You not even understand that basic fact!

If you don't confess your sins you remain defiled!

 

[Right Divider]

You are the one who remains confused!

By the time John's epistles were written Israel had already been temporarily set aside:

"For if the casting aside of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?" (Ro.11:15).​

You not even understand that basic fact!

If you don't confess your sins you remain defiled!

You'd make a great Roman Catholic.

I'm done with you Jerry.

 

[jamie]

The WE and US in John is Israel.

Are Ephraim and Manasseh Israel?

 

[Right Divider]

Are Ephraim and Manasseh Israel?

Does jamie like to ask leading questions? Yes

Does jamie not know how to dialog? Yes

 

[jamie]

The WE and US in John is Israel.

And we are Israel.

 

[Right Divider]

And we are Israel.

Ah, yes ... you are the mystical, magical Israel. The fairy tale Israel.

 

[Tambora]

And we are Israel.

No.
Israel fell, the BOC did not.
Israel is an enemy of the gospel, the BOC is not.

 

[Bright Raven]

And we are Israel.

Israel will always be Israel. The BOC is not Israel

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Israel will always be Israel. The BOC is not Israel

Geographically true.
Metaphorically, not true.

AMR

 

[Faither]

Geographically true.
Metaphorically, not true.

AMR

Agreed . Israel means " God governed ."

 

[Bright Raven]

Geographically true.
Metaphorically, not true.

AMR

You believe in replacement theology?

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

You believe in replacement theology?

Brother, I know you have seen my post on this canard before. That you raise it again worries me. :AMR:

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?126873-What-is-the-Gospel&p=5135095&viewfull=1#post5135095
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ogy-is-wrong&p=4828138&viewfull=1#post4828138

AMR

 

[glorydaz]

Brother, I know you have seen my post on this canard before. That you raise it again worries me. :AMR:

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?126873-What-is-the-Gospel&p=5135095&viewfull=1#post5135095
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ogy-is-wrong&p=4828138&viewfull=1#post4828138

AMR

Don't worry. BR might be like me....I don't remember all your posts either. :chuckle:

 

[glorydaz]

We know that those in the Body of Christ can become defiled in their "walk" so doesn't that mean that once a Christian sins then he is no longer holy?:

"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor.7:1).​

I see a huge difference between "no longer holy" and "perfecting holiness".

 

[Right Divider]

I see a huge difference between "no longer holy" and "perfecting holiness".

Apparently Jerry thinks that not sinning makes one holy :dizzy:

 

[Jerry Shugart]

I see a huge difference between "no longer holy" and "perfecting holiness".

So you do not think that when a Christian sins he becomes deflied and unholy?:

"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor.7:1).​

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Apparently Jerry thinks that not sinning makes one holy :dizzy:

Apparently you do not think that when a Christian sins he does not become defiled and unholy?

You have not yet learned to distinguish between a believers "position in Christ" and his "walk."

 

[glorydaz]

So you do not think that when a Christian sins he becomes deflied and unholy?:

"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor.7:1).​

Where is the word sin in that quote?

And where is the word defiled?