Did the Libtards not expect a backlash???

The Barbarian

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More whining and self-identified victimization from a privileged little snowflake.

Sorry, Paul, the world doesn't revolve around you, and other people have rights just like you. Learn to live with it.
 

The Horn

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OK . Just how many guns have they confiscated so far ? Did they confiscate yOUR guns? I doubt it . Obama hasn't been president since January 19 2017 , and unfortunately, Hillary lost the election . Or did she ? She won th popular vote by 3 million , and still wouldn't have confiscated any guns if she had won .
 

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Vegas believes the NRA over common sense. Despite the fact that at its heart the NRA is nothing but a lobby group to increase the bottom line of weapon makers. The 2nd Amendment rationale is cover, a beard

More accurately, I believe the words of Dems who have been in power. I have no reason to doubt that they meant what they've said.
 

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Bravo. What a great meme
 

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Hopefully mandatory vaccines are coming soon along with the Draft reinstated, that will be be a good day.
 

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The Electoral College was put in place precisely to NOT have the majority choose the president. It was a very wise invention.

If it was the Founding Fathers intension not to have the majority choose the president, why go through the time and expense of the primaries, convention and election when its already a done deal?

If the Founding Fathers wanted to take directly voting for a leader out of the hands of the public, they would have introduced a parliamentary system where its the political parties that appoint their own leaders!

Why are the Republicans so vocal about promoting voter identification, but then remain silent when the Electoral College effectively disenfranchised 3 million Democratic voters?
 

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If it was the Founding Fathers intension not to have the majority choose the president, why go through the time and expense of the primaries, convention and election when its already a done deal?
Primaries are a relatively new invention.

Why are the Republicans so vocal about promoting voter identification, but then remain silent when the Electoral College effectively disenfranchises 3 million Democratic voters?
How do you figure that?

The United States of America is NOT a democracy. It is a representative republic. It is designed specifically so that the majority does NOT rule over the minority. Is this hard for you to understand?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner plans.
 

rexlunae

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Primaries are a relatively new invention.


How do you figure that?

The United States of America is NOT a democracy. It is a representative republic. It is designed specifically so that the majority does NOT rule over the minority. Is this hard for you to understand?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner plans.

Currently, it functions to allow the minority to rule over the majority. If you think that's sustainable, you're out of your mind.

The system that we have was designed to both sides to have a voice, and neither side will win a final victory without an overwhelming victory. But if you empower the minority to always get its way, you've gone astray.
 

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It's undemocratic and wrong.
You're an amazing cry baby that is unaffected by facts.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner plans.

You only like it because it empowers the minority that you belong to.
Nope.

I'm glad that the big population centers cannot beat up the entire population. We are a large country made up of 50 states. Our system protects everyone against democracy.
 

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Currently, it functions to allow the minority to rule over the majority. If you think that's sustainable, you're out of your mind.
In the sense that politics is a small club and a rigged system, sure.

The system that we have was designed to both sides to have a voice, and neither side will win a final victory without an overwhelming victory. But if you empower the minority to always get its way, you've gone astray.
From the perspective of the actual election, the current system is the best protection against the tyranny of the majority.

That the actual candidates are all from the "insiders club" is another story.
 

The Barbarian

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You can only go so far with Gerrymandering and voter suppression. The worst thing about it for the United States is that it lets the party involved with those frauds become complacent and contemptuous of ordinary people.

And that eventually produces a backlash. Democrats might like it, but in the long run, it's not going to work out well.
 

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..... The United States of America is NOT a democracy. It is a representative republic. It is designed specifically so that the majority does NOT rule over the minority. Is this hard for you to understand?

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner plans.
How long do you think millions of Americans will allow the Electoral College to disenfranchise their vote - the candidate who lost the popular vote has become president in 2 of the last 5 elections.

If the American electorate is not the ultimate authority as to who becomes president, are we to believe that some anonymous, appointed members of the Electoral College should wield that power!
 
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Democrats need to recognize that at least for the foreseeable future the electoral college is here. Deal with it.
It is interesting that at the present it does not seem to have worked as Hamilton thought it would in Federalist #68 "The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States."

Aside from being a blowhard PR man, a misogynist, and a liar with neither intellectual honest nor intellectual curiosity and being only interested in how he can increase his bank account, I'm not sure what other talents DJT has.

You have to give credit to the advertising message however--it worked. But once this buffoon is in office he was supposed to do some real work, not have us pay for his golf travels. Although I'd be happy to pay for him to go play in Mexico if he would then be picking up a $25 billion check for THE WALL he promised would be paid for by Mexico.
 

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How long do you think millions of Americans will allow the Electoral College to disenfranchise their vote - the candidate who lost the popular vote has become president in 2 of the last 5 elections.
Once AGAIN, the USA is specifically NOT a democracy. Your silly ideas of "disenfranchisement" is a fairy tale.

If the American electorate is not the ultimate authority as to who becomes president, are we to believe that some anonymous, appointed members of the Electoral College should wield that power!
Once again, your silly lack of understanding typical of uniformed.
 

rexlunae

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From the perspective of the actual election, the current system is the best protection against the tyranny of the majority.

...by ensuring the tyranny of the minority.

Look, I think it's pretty obvious that the minority can only rule for so long. Eventually, something is going to change. You haven't posted even a remotely convincing justification for letting the minority rule, so I'm kinda done with you.
 

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...by ensuring the tyranny of the minority.
Just exactly how can the minority of VOTERS tyrannize the majority of VOTERS.

You cannot even think straight.

Look, I think it's pretty obvious that the minority can only rule for so long. Eventually, something is going to change. You haven't posted even a remotely convincing justification for letting the minority rule, so I'm kinda done with you.
Your ideas about VOTING for the president are ignorant and based on a system of government that the USA does NOT have.
 

rexlunae

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"libtards"

Just one other simple observation. Using the word "libtard" while complaining that we weren't nice enough to you is really, really silly. And I think you should consider the non-stop stream of bile thrown at liberals from the right-wing. There is, simply, no corresponding language used within the Left.

And then there's this inconvenient fact: Evangelicalism in America, at least within the political sphere, isn't about religion at all. It's about segregation and racism. So Jerry Falwell Sr. founded a school that would become "Liberty" University, and his Jerry Falwell Jr. can never seem to see anything wrong with Trump, even as he soft-endorses KKK and Nazis.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/opinion/trump-christian-right-values.html
 

rexlunae

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Just exactly how can the minority of VOTERS tyrannize the majority of VOTERS.

By voting for candidates the majority despises. The Republicans control the House, the Senate, the White House, all with fewer votes than the Democrats got, and so they get their way. It has to stop. And we're going to stop it in due time.

You cannot even think straight.

Dude, pay some attention.


Your ideas about VOTING for the president are ignorant and based on a system of government that the USA does NOT have.

You are mistaken about that. The United States is constitutionally a democratic republic. We are a federal democratic representative republic, i.e., we are constituted of legally distinct political entities which hold the actual voting, we hold popular elections to choose people to represent us, and we have no person who acts as monarch. These different aspects of our system of government are complimentary, and all essential.
 
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