Creation vs. Evolution

[Mark SeaSigh]

whoa, ship me s lobster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster

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I know you will believe this one exists; I can only find an Artist's Personal Biased Rendition of this Creature; in google search (Red Lobster):

http://www.culture24.org.uk/science...imillion-pound-Jurassic-museum-set-Kimmeridge

From the Article;
"150 million years ago."

 

[patrick jane]

i know some people who dispute carbon dating but know matter how you date things i believe the approximate age (as man measures time) of the universe and earth as roughly 14 billion and 4.6 billion manmade calender years. a blink of an eye to God

 

[Mark SeaSigh]

Have a Nice thanksgiving, Patrick Jane.

:rapture:

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[patrick jane]

you too, love ya brother !

 

[patrick jane]

Dear PJ,

No, Saturday is the Sabbath. It just got screwed up by Constantine who said to celebrate it on a Sunday.

God Be With You Each Day,

Michael

thank you michael, i enjoy you

 

[Mark SeaSigh]

Back at ya Christian.

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[patrick jane]

hey now i can't seem to pick up the old thread (older posts)

 

[MichaelCadry]

Dear Patrick Jane,

Can you find them now?? Just go to the top or bottom of the page and look for the Page Nos. We're on Pg. 444 right now. To go back to previous page, click on 443, etc.

Hope it helps!

Michael

 

[MichaelCadry]

hi michael, i may be called a cop-out but i try to let my imagination line up with scripture. it boggles my mind and befuddles me as i used to be a guy that tried not to think about it. after decades away from God my path allowed me to come back (don't get me wrong, i've always sought God but not with all my heart) bla bla bla but what if Jesus was with God in Spirit @ the Beginning. Jesus the man and the Christ Soul (Spirit) ?

Dear patrick jane,

It's not a cop-out. Jesus was with God in Spirit at the Beginning. I think that is why God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, and after OUR (God's and Jesus's) likeness." I don't think I am wrong about this.

Michael

:drum:

:salute:

 

[MichaelCadry]

Dear MarkS,

I love the Blue Lobster the best. I don't think I could eat it. Blue is my favorite color and it looks so nice. Can't kill that one. Where do you find all of these things?? And some of those lobsters are dang huge!! Yumm!!!

All The Best From The Lord And Me!!

Michael

 

[MichaelCadry]

Dear Alwight,

How are you doing? I wanted to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving this year!! I hope you're having turkey and all the trimmings. Or at least fish and chips down at the pub. Heeeehheee!! I hope that all is going better for you and things are looking good. I will PM you, I think. You take wonderful care of yourself and your Mom, and enjoy the holiday!!

Best Of Wishes,

Michael

 

[patrick jane]

thanks, Michael, good night, God Bless to all. i pray we all enjoy family and friends and children and FOOD and football - Church perhaps ? get the tree out - DON"T GO SHOPPIN !!!!!

 

[alwight]

Genetic information in the material world requires a non physical super natural intelligent "Informer", that would be the logical conclusion. That non intelligent matter produced non material logical thought is laughable.

--Dave

Why would a godly "non material logical thought" without involving any kind of proposed step by step process or explanation be less laughable?
A supposed miraculous entity is simply having no explanation at all.

 

[alwight]

Dear Alwight,

How are you doing? I wanted to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving this year!! I hope you're having turkey and all the trimmings. Or at least fish and chips down at the pub. Heeeehheee!! I hope that all is going better for you and things are looking good. I will PM you, I think. You take wonderful care of yourself and your Mom, and enjoy the holiday!!

Best Of Wishes,

Michael

Hi Michael, as I said in my PM we don't really do Thanksgiving here, it's just another day.
Have a nice time.
:cheers:

 

[DFT_Dave]

Why would a godly "non material logical thought" without involving any kind of proposed step by step process or explanation be less laughable?

A supposed miraculous entity is simply having no explanation at all.

And is believing non living matter become life not a miracle?

Rational thought cannot rationally come from that which is not capable of rational thought.

That's why believing in God is not laughable.

--Dave

 

[alwight]

And is believing non living matter become life not a miracle?

Rational thought cannot rationally come from that which is not capable of rational thought.

That's why believing in God is not laughable.

--Dave

Perhaps you don't really want a rational explanation to exist Dave, you only want to believe in miracles and magic. An evolved nervous system evidentially has become capable of rational thought despite your reluctance to accept it.

 

[Mark SeaSigh]

You may be interested in this Vid (January 8th, 2013); If you are interested in the Chances of Creatures Capable of thought Existing in the Universe (Leonard Susskind Explains)

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1 + 1 = 2
There, you have it;

Either we live in a Mega-Multiuniverse (A Theory, "String-Theory", Created by Man's Imagination); Or, God designed Every Bit, along with Super-Conscious Art.

I chose God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

Happy Turkey-Day, Everybody!!! : D

 

[DFT_Dave]

Perhaps you don't really want a rational explanation to exist Dave, you only want to believe in miracles and magic. An evolved nervous system evidentially has become capable of rational thought despite your reluctance to accept it.

That mindless purposeless nature creates life and adds useful information toward complex integrated systems is an absolutely impossible contradiction.

Calling evolution a rational explanation is absurd.

--Dave

 

[The Barbarian]

That mindless purposeless nature creates life

God said it brought forth life as He intended.

and adds useful information toward complex integrated systems is an absolutely impossible contradiction.

That sounds a little crazy, given the demonstrations that useful information happens through random mutation and natural seletions. However, I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing your numbers.

Let's have a look. Prediction: Dave just made that up, and has nothing whatever to support his claim.

Calling evolution a rational explanation is absurd.

It's going to take more than your say-so to overcome the evidence. What you do have to show us?

Prediction: Dave cuts and runs again.

 

[6days]

Genetic information in the material world requires a non physical super natural intelligent "Informer", that would be the logical conclusion. That non intelligent matter produced non material logical thought is laughable.

Why would a godly "non material logical thought" without involving any kind of proposed step by step process or explanation be less laughable?
A supposed miraculous entity is simply having no explanation at all.

Couple reasons...It's illogical to think that consciousness arises from non living matter. That pile of gravel in my back yard, is never going to think for itself.


Also, it's illogical to think that my pile of gravel exists without a cause. Everything that has a beginning has a cause. Both of us know that something caused my gravel pile. We know something caused the gravel pit, where my gravel came from. We even know the stones had a beginning, and a cause. Everything which begins to exist has a cause.


So, atheists end up with a tough question. If everything which begins to exist has a cause...What caused the beginning? you can believe there never was a real beginning, which then means you believe something has existed throughout all eternity. We could say you believe in an uncaused cause?


As believers, we believe the God of the Bible is that uncaused Cause. He has no beginning. It is He which caused everything...It is He who sustains everything.