Creation vs. Evolution

[Hedshaker]

Dear noguru, gcthomas, hedshaker, Alwight, DavisBJ, Stuart, etc.,

What do you think of my Post #6315 re Evolution?? It is from a good source and says it just the way it is. Are you afraid to comment on it or what. Maybe you are all out partying. That's probably it. Oh, well. That's okay too! I may break open a bottle of wine myself 2nite. My birthday is tomorrow, so I can finish it 2morrow. The "Post" I am mentioning is pretty new info. C what U think!!

Hello Michael,

Personally I think you should...... nay must, continue. You do an even better job than some of the most experienced and talented Poe's I've ever read. You see Michael, as daft as creationism is, there are still a tiny few people out there gullible enough to buy it. Yes, I know, it's unbelievable but as they say, there's none stranger than folk.

So don't go thinking your efforts aren't appreciated. On the contrary you're on a roll. It wouldn't surprise me if you get up there with Hovind and Cameron soon. So please don't stop :third:

No partying at the moment Michael, just working hard. But next June it's gonna be a different story. Myself and a few friends have managed to procure ourselves tickets to Glastonbury Festival. Only the biggest, most prestigious music festival in the whole world. So you bet there'll be some partying going on then. Only trouble is, it's late June 2015 which more or less coincides with your second coming event. Bummer! I doubt he'll be showing his face at Glastonbury Festival though, but even if he does, I assure you he won't get in without a ticket

P.S. Just joking there!

Me too for.......... the most part :up: :singer:

Kirk Cameron

Kirky Baby

 

[The Barbarian]

This is an undesigned banana, as God created it:

The banana Rev. Frootloop is holding is a designed one. But God didn't design it. Generations of agricuturalists did. And yes, they did a fine job of designing it for human use.

But that's not how it was created.

 

[Hedshaker]

This is an undesigned banana, as God created it:

Totally agree. Cameron will never live it down :up:

Of course, beliefs aside, there is no evidence at all that fruit or anything else natural was "created".

 

[MichaelCadry]

Hello Michael,

Personally I think you should...... nay must, continue. You do an even better job than some of the most experienced and talented Poe's I've ever read. You see Michael, as daft as creationism is, there are still a tiny few people out there gullible enough to buy it. Yes, I know, it's unbelievable but as they say, there's none stranger than folk.

Thanks for the pleasant post!! Hello back at you!! Did Poe write fiction or non-fiction? Or both? Yes, I guess I am daft because I KNOW for sure there is a God and angels, and the Holy Ghost, and also Jesus. You don't know, but I do. It's okay. Different experiences and upbringing. You can bet I'm not gullible and will hardly sell myself short when it concerns keeping the CLOSE relationship I have with God and Jesus, and the Holy Ghost, and certain angels. You all really need to read my book. It might be the best thing you could do for yourselves. You are missing out on one of Life's best Offers (believing in God and Jesus).

So don't go thinking your efforts aren't appreciated. On the contrary you're on a roll. It wouldn't surprise me if you get up there with Hovind and Cameron soon. So please don't stop :third:

Yes, I know that Kirk (Cameron) can be taxing at times. He is more exuberant than I am and a bit misinformed to boot. He needs to read my book too. I will let you know how to read it for FREE at the end of this post to you, Buddy!! As you can probably tell, I think very well of you and realize that you have more going on in your life than Creation or Evolution. That's best for sure.

No partying at the moment Michael, just working hard. But next June it's gonna be a different story. Myself and a few friends have managed to procure ourselves tickets to Glastonbury Festival. Only the biggest, most prestigious music festival in the whole world. So you bet there'll be some partying going on then. Only trouble is, it's late June 2015 which more or less coincides with your second coming event. Bummer! I doubt he'll be showing his face at Glastonbury Festival though, but even if he does, I assure you he won't get in without a ticket

Me too for.......... the most part :up: :singer:

Kirk Cameron

Kirky Baby

No partying? Why couldn't I get a hold of you on Sat. night?? Seems like everyone was gone. Next time, I will try harder. I am going to have a glass of wine a bit later. It's been a wonderful birthday and I celebrated it at my older sister's home. She worked hard. It was so fun!

I'm glad for you getting to go to the Glastonbury Festival. I've been invited to some Book Festivals also and, if time allows, I may do it. Well, I would keep my eyes watching the east, Hedshaker. You're supposed to face each day with what it has to offer, both good and bad. Don't worry about the future, or you'll waste your time and life. Live for the moment you're dealing with; each day comes with enough evil to handle for one day.

Hey, I think you are wonderful for not being sarcastic and being friendly and caring. The world needs more people like you who believe in God, though. You're a unique and splendid individual, you remind me of Alwight!!

OK! To get a FREE copy of my book to read, instead of paying $14.95 for it at Amazon.com or Barnes&Noble, go to the website below:

www.jesusreturningverysoon.com

On the left side of the picture there (looks like my avatar), left-click on 'Book Copy', then left-click on 'SKU-text.pdf. This will bring you to the Title Page of my book and you can use your up and down arrow cursor keys to flip through the pages. It's a quick read. You can also download it and print it out, if that's easier for you to read. Trouble with that is 90 pgs. of paper and a bit of black ink. OK, well, Love Ya, and keep being cool!!

Many Cheerios (with milk),

Michael

:cloud9:

 

[MichaelCadry]

This is an undesigned banana, as God created it:

The banana Rev. Frootloop is holding is a designed one. But God didn't design it. Generations of agricuturalists did. And yes, they did a fine job of designing it for human use.

But that's not how it was created.

Dear Barbarian,

The old version looks very unpalatable. Icchhh! Eeeeewww!! I wouldn't eat one. I'm sure that God was with the agriculturists to change it's properties. Otherwise, it would have never been done so well. So that is a wild banana, eh. It could be an entirely different fruit. That reminds me that I have some coconut (from a tree) in the fridge. It isn't as sweet as I am used to, but it will do. It's helpful if you are a nonsmoker because it helps replace it. Mostly, I do jawbreakers and iced water all day.

Hey Barbarian, thanks so much for letting me know about your banana, and I do hope that you'll post more often. No pun intended. Is that the banana growing in the husk in the middle? So the banana is food for the seed itself, like a coconut, etc. So I can understand God making some shield for the banana when it falls off the tree. Have you ever seen the husk on a coconut??! If the banana wasn't buffered, it would bruise falling from the tree.

God's Best For You,

Michael

:cloud9: :jump:

:yoshi:

 

[MichaelCadry]

Michael, this is the biggest piece of rubbish I have read in a long time. There is so much misinformation here, I don't know where to begin. I have highlighted a few of the most glaring errors. The fact that you cannot see the inaccuracies further confirms my suspicion that you are very confused about science.

Dear noguru,

I figured someone would say that. If that is science, then I'm not interested. I'll believe what the Lord tells me. He does guide me and helps me learn. Who do you think answers your posts all the time. It's the Lord Who helps me, for the most part, through my guardian angel and then, myself. Though I do not listen all of the time, I do my best. I guess, noguru, we will find out when we can ask our Maker. I do trust you'll get that chance. If what I did post to you isn't true, I think we will find out soon by the uproar by evolutionists. You are a Christian brother. I suppose you are part Christian, part evolutionist. No big whoop. I used to be that way too, so I can relate.

God Be Between Me and Thee Always,

Michael

Send my love to your fiance'. I'm proud of you!

MC

:cloud9: :jump:

:up:

 

[The Barbarian]

Actually, coconuts evolved a tough husk to manage floating in seawater. It's how it gets from island to island. There are plants that don't migrate across sea water; they never evolved those adaptations.

 

[6days]

Actually, coconuts evolved a tough husk to manage floating in seawater. It's how it gets from island to island.

Yes boys and girls. That was once upon a time ...long long ago. Mr and Mrs Coconut had mushy gushy husks and could not swim. So they evolved tough husks and floated off to paradise island together and lived happily ever after.

But, Mr and Mrs Coconuts great grandchildren do not enjoy paradise island. They have been falling from the tree just a little bit further each year. And...Do you know what is happening boys and girls? The hairy tusks of their shells seem to be turning into FEATHERS!!! Won't it be exciting when the baby coconuts have speciated and fly away to Fantasy Island?

 

[The Barbarian]

Barbarian observes:
Actually, coconuts evolved a tough husk to manage floating in seawater. It's how it gets from island to island. There are plants that don't migrate across sea water; they never evolved those adaptations.

(6days demonstrates why ignorance is a bad thing)

Yes boys and girls. That was once upon a time ...long long ago. Mr and Mrs Coconut had mushy gushy husks and could not swim. So they evolved tough husks and floated off to paradise island together and lived happily ever after.

This is the problem with ignorance. If you don't know what the evidence is, you're stuck telling fairy tales. Here's a place to learn the basics, and a bit about transitional forms of palm nuts.
http://cocos.arecaceae.com/botrev.pdf

Learn, and you won't feel the need to come up with inventive stories.

 

[everready]

Hows this for an inventive story Barbarian?

Charles (ape-man) Darwin needs no introduction. Everybody who went to hell thinking that they came from apes are cursing him now. His book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection was published in 1859. His mean goal was to overthrow the Book of Genesis which is the final authority on the origin of the universe and mankind.

Charles stole the theory of evilution from his grandfather. His grandfather's madness was inherited by his grandson. Nobody except old Beelzebub himself has sent more souls to hell than this ape-man. His grandfather and Jenner laid the foundation of the MAD idea of turning the FABLE of evilution into a scientific FACT.

Millions around the world still follow this deadly Jesuit. His law of the jungle or might makes right gave birth to Communism, Fascism etc., etc. You won't find a college or university in the world today that is not permeated with his evolutionary philosophy and world-view.

http://www.reformation.org/five-deadly-jesuits.html

everready

 

[MichaelCadry]

Actually, coconuts evolved a tough husk to manage floating in seawater. It's how it gets from island to island. There are plants that don't migrate across sea water; they never evolved those adaptations.

Dear Barbarian,

Thanks so much for the info. I didn't get to read the entire writings about the coconut, but that is how the husk is. It's buoyant in water. Wouldn't it taste a bit salty though? Probably the ones who don't float to another island are nice a sweet inside. Really interesting and it makes sense. You need a machete to get the dang husk off. I used to do it with a claw hammer and a flat-head screwdriver in FL. on Miami Beach. They have to fall a loooong way to the ground because those coconut palm trees are Tall!

Very much appreciated!! God be with you!

Michael

:cloud9:

 

[MichaelCadry]

Yes boys and girls. That was once upon a time ...long long ago. Mr and Mrs Coconut had mushy gushy husks and could not swim. So they evolved tough husks and floated off to paradise island together and lived happily ever after.

But, Mr and Mrs Coconuts great grandchildren do not enjoy paradise island. They have been falling from the tree just a little bit further each year. And...Do you know what is happening boys and girls? The hairy tusks of their shells seem to be turning into FEATHERS!!! Won't it be exciting when the baby coconuts have speciated and fly away to Fantasy Island?

Dear 6 days,

Very funny! Nothing would surprise me. But it does look like Barbarian is right and it makes perfect sense to me. Have you ever had to open a coconut. They're not at all like what you go to the store to buy. They are naturally in a husk about one foot long and wide. It is like freaky. We used to get one every once in a while from the next door neighbors coconut palm. Takes an hour to get the dang husk off. But the coconut is sweeter than what I've been finding at the grocery stores. The husk is the weirdest. It is thick fibrous material and can float like it has no choice. Check into it if you can.

May God's Love Be With Your Caring Heart,

Michael

:cloud9: :jump:

 

[MichaelCadry]

Barbarian observes:
Actually, coconuts evolved a tough husk to manage floating in seawater. It's how it gets from island to island. There are plants that don't migrate across sea water; they never evolved those adaptations.
(6days demonstrates why ignorance is a bad thing)
This is the problem with ignorance. If you don't know what the evidence is, you're stuck telling fairy tales. Here's a place to learn the basics, and a bit about transitional forms of palm nuts.
http://cocos.arecaceae.com/botrev.pdf

Learn, and you won't feel the need to come up with inventive stories.

Dear The Barbarian,

If you weren't so right, you would be a bad boy. 6 days is a good friend of mine. OK, I suppose you both know things that the other does not yet know. Rack one up! Actually do you know there is a coconut crab, (much bigger than your normal snow crab or stone crab) who can husk a dang coconut and crack the inside of the actual seed (which we buy at the store) and he eats what's inside?? I'd really hate to look like a coconut meeting up with one of those. Do you know how STRONG their claws can be?? It just boggles the mind. Life has got to be created by God. There is just no way this is all happening on it's own.

Thank you!!

God's Love Be With You,

Michael

:singer: :yoshi:

:cloud9:

 

[MichaelCadry]

Hows this for an inventive story Barbarian?

Charles (ape-man) Darwin needs no introduction. Everybody who went to hell thinking that they came from apes are cursing him now. His book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection was published in 1859. His mean goal was to overthrow the Book of Genesis which is the final authority on the origin of the universe and mankind.

Charles stole the theory of evilution from his grandfather. His grandfather's madness was inherited by his grandson. Nobody except old Beelzebub himself has sent more souls to hell than this ape-man. His grandfather and Jenner laid the foundation of the MAD idea of turning the FABLE of evilution into a scientific FACT.

Millions around the world still follow this deadly Jesuit. His law of the jungle or might makes right gave birth to Communism, Fascism etc., etc. You won't find a college or university in the world today that is not permeated with his evolutionary philosophy and world-view.

http://www.reformation.org/five-deadly-jesuits.html

everready

Dear everready,

Many good points here. Looks like you did your homework and I really appreciate it. It makes me realize how all of these foggy notions came to be. So that's how all of this b/s started eh? I think it is a travesty that one family could do so much harm. I'm sure they will receive quite a reward in the hot zone. Even I can forgive them, though it is extremely difficult. Thanks extremely for bringing this all to light. How many minds they have screwed up!! Eeeeek!!

Looking forward to hearing from you again very soon, Amigo!!

God Bless Your Studying And Strong Heart and Mind,

Michael

:yoshi:

:cloud9:

 

[alwight]

Hows this for an inventive story Barbarian?

Charles (ape-man) Darwin needs no introduction. Everybody who went to hell thinking that they came from apes are cursing him now. His book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection was published in 1859. His mean goal was to overthrow the Book of Genesis which is the final authority on the origin of the universe and mankind.

Charles stole the theory of evilution from his grandfather. His grandfather's madness was inherited by his grandson. Nobody except old Beelzebub himself has sent more souls to hell than this ape-man. His grandfather and Jenner laid the foundation of the MAD idea of turning the FABLE of evilution into a scientific FACT.

Millions around the world still follow this deadly Jesuit. His law of the jungle or might makes right gave birth to Communism, Fascism etc., etc. You won't find a college or university in the world today that is not permeated with his evolutionary philosophy and world-view.

http://www.reformation.org/five-deadly-jesuits.html

everready

Dear everready,

Many good points here. Looks like you did your homework and I really appreciate it. It makes me realize how all of these foggy notions came to be. So that's how all of this b/s started eh? I think it is a travesty that one family could do so much harm. I'm sure they will receive quite a reward in the hot zone. Even I can forgive them, though it is extremely difficult. Thanks extremely for bringing this all to light. How many minds they have screwed up!! Eeeeek!!

Looking forward to hearing from you again very soon, Amigo!!

God Bless Your Studying And Strong Heart and Mind,

Michael

:yoshi:

:cloud9:

Take it from me Michael, this is simply a classic case of bald assertions and creationist misinformation combined here however with a large dose of anti-Catholicism and the Spanish Inquisition to boot. :kookoo:
The link supplied by everready even rues the coming of vaccinations:

"Jenner introduced the poisoned needle to the world and began the filthy practice of injecting humans with diseased animal matter. Thanks to Jenner, vaccination spread around the world like the plague and is still in use today!!"

No doubt everready thinks that the world would be a much better place if we still had smallpox, polio and many other now easily preventable diseases?

 

[everready]

Alright alwight i did another search and found this..

Charles Darwin and the Counter-Reformation

http://drakeshelton.com/2012/10/11/charles-darwin-and-the-counter-reformation/

Two lines are forming those on the left those on the right..

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

everready

 

[alwight]

Alright alwight i did another search and found this..

Charles Darwin and the Counter-Reformation

http://drakeshelton.com/2012/10/11/charles-darwin-and-the-counter-reformation/

I notice that Drake Shelton seems to be a current active member of ToL. Coincidence?

Two lines are forming those on the left those on the right..

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

everready

:angrymob::angrymob::devil: ______ :cloud9::the_wave:​

 

[The Barbarian]

Hows this for an inventive story Barbarian?

(creationists are very inventive story-tellers; let's see what his imagination can do)

Charles (ape-man) Darwin needs no introduction. Everybody who went to hell thinking that they came from apes are cursing him now.

Which would be no one. Christians know that God does not sent you to hell for being a creationist or for accepting evolution. Would you like to learn what does send you to hell?

His book On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection was published in 1859. His mean goal was to overthrow the Book of Genesis which is the final authority on the origin of the universe and mankind.

That's very inventive, but the facts say otherwise. Darwin was, when he wrote the book, so much an Orthodox Anglican that he recounts how his orthodoxy amused the officers on the Beagle.

Charles stole the theory of evilution from his grandfather.

Wrong again. By that time, pretty much all scientists realized that some kind of evolution must have happened. But Darwin's great discovery was the mechanism by which it happened.

(pointless ranting deleted)

Millions around the world still follow this deadly Jesuit.

Darwin was Anglican, not Catholic. Do you even think about any of this, as you write it?

His law of the jungle or might makes right gave birth to Communism, Fascism etc., etc.

Well, let's see what he says about that...

The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil.
Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man

If the person who so slandered a man was a Christian, he would quickly apologize for it. If.

You won't find a college or university in the world today that is not permeated with his evolutionary philosophy and world-view.

Evidence does have that effect on people.

 

[The Barbarian]

Alright alwight i did another search and found this..

Charles Darwin and the Counter-Reformation

http://drakeshelton.com/2012/10/11/c...r-reformation/

Drake Shelton? This guy?
I do believe their is one human genus but three primary races: That of Shem, that of Japheth and that of Ham. God sovereignly had these three men born with their disticnt ethnic characteristics. The black Hamites with their clear physical superiority. The white Japhethites and Shemites with their clear mental superiorities. Each with their own distinct beauty, strengths and weaknesses. How these could have come about by climate change I will leave to the dark places of your mind Steve. The blacks have never built an empire or advanced civilization and if one simply looks at an anthology of black writers vs. white writers, the comparison is alarming. Clearly the white Japhethites have built the greatest civilizations and invented all of the fundamental parts of modern civilization. The blacks were selected by the early African slave traders to do be slaves specifically because they were the only group of people that could withstand all of the physical hardships of slavery and not fall into despair (See William O. Blake, Slavery and the Slave Trade, Ancient and Modern pages 95-96). So the idea that the differences between the races is only the color of their skin is ignorant Neoplatonic, monadic, rubbish
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2012...howComment=1341356158179#c2172337199966675438

Goes hand in hand with creationism.

 

[The Barbarian]

Takes an hour to get the dang husk off. But the coconut is sweeter than what I've been finding at the grocery stores. The husk is the weirdest. It is thick fibrous material and can float like it has no choice. Check into it if you can.

Traditionally, it's opened by using a sharpened stake you stick in the ground, sharp point up.

AF survival courses taught people how to do that. IF you didn't know how, you could starve in the middle of plenty.