We have covered this repeatedly. You and I both agree on this part. I am trying to get a solid answer for this:
I am trying to discover your method for getting your subjective perspective as much in line with the objective reality as humanly possible. Can you explain how you do that?
I believe the Bible is accurate in its historical details. I have found it to be consistent and coherant. I suppose I learn like anyone else.
So an automobile is not "spiritual" in your mind, but fixing one "may be"? I do not understand your point here, can you clarify?
You are talking about an object. An automobile is neither good nor bad. But the driver can use his or her car properly or not. This is where morals are involved. But morals are also important for the mechanic.
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Do you think some people had automobiles back then?
No, but your question was about back then. Maybe charriots and horses and donkeys and camels.
Can you think of any other things that no one had or few people had back then?
Few people had calculators. I can't remember when the acabus came around, nor where. I know there are other ways people have discovered to help with counting.
So your knowledge of the words in the Bible and what people say is based upon empirical evidence, right?
I guess when we talk about learning we can consider natural learning or Supernatural learning. I do learn about the Bible by the Holy Spirit. Language is a mystery to me, but God by His Spirit I believe helps me navigate through life... and this does include the study of words. Reading the words of the Bible does not always provide people with spiritual illumination, or at least it does not seem so to some people in some situations. But I still believe reading the Bible will help... even before the Spirit of God does a work in that person's life, making God's word come alive and bringing the truth of His word to fruition... that we can be set free from sin and live life the way God intended it to be lived.
I know. You said it was possible in an attempt to skirt the following question:
If your car breaks down and you have a choice between 2 mechanics. One is a Christian and you have heard many horror stories about the repairs from this person. The other is an atheist and you have only heard good things about his service. Both mechanics tell you they know what they are doing, would you choose the Christian over the atheist?
Which you still have not answered clearly. God is watching.
Interesting. I wouldn't think God is not watching. I don't have a car right now and I don't have a mechanic either. But when I had a car I picked a mechanic, twice, by who I knew. Do you have any other questions about mechanics and cars?
You think? What makes you say that?
[Rom 1:18-21 NASB] 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
I am quite aware of that. I share the gospel every moment of every day, without even having to actually quote scripture (word for word - for the most part). Would you like to know how that is done?
I've been on both sides of the coin. One person I know will not receive anything I say unless it is a Bible verse. But I have learned that the gospel can be communicated without quoting Bible verses. What I don't understand is why people would not want to read the Bible, knowing that it is God's word (maybe they don't).
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