Coronavirus conspiracy theory - let's get it straight

marke

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Either this pandemic and the response to it are a sinister satanic power-grabbing conspiracy, or our elected leaders are simply trying to act in the most responsible way possible to protect their citizens. Millions of people around the world have been hospitalized and died because of this pandemic, and hospitals and morgues in various localities have been temporarily overwhelmed. While this isn't the first time a deadly pandemic has struck humanity (think bubonic plague/black death and Spanish flu), this is the first time that we have adequate vaccine technology and other strategies to deal with it. I personally know unvaccinated people who have been hospitalized because of COVID-19--and a couple of them have died from it--but I don't know anyone yet who has died from getting the vaccines, nor do I know of any vaccinated person who has been hospitalized or died because of COVID-19. It's strange, the way this sinister conspiracy works. It's almost as though they're trying to protect us from illness and death!
Consider yourself both fortunate as well as uninformed if you don't know anyone who has suffered serious physical harm from the vaccine.
 

marke

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I'm starting to wonder if you've ever had one rational thought in your entire life

"They are out to kill us with bioweapons"?

Yeah, that ain't paranoid, conspiracy bunk at all. Best get the home shielded with some new tin foil...
Who knows why Fauci funded the research that developed the coronavirus and then lied about it?
 

marke

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In Africa, AIDS isn't a "gay disease." Here, it was/is spread by various "at risk" behaviors. But even then, it isn't a "gay disease" per se. It can be spread by heterosexual contact as well.
Here in America, the GRID disease was always gay-related.
 

Arthur Brain

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What are you denying now, that Fauci funded the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab that gave us covid-19? How can you support such denial of the facts?
The same way I can deny that there's a unicorn living in my shed. Your space cadet conspiracy stuff gets real old after a few seconds...
 

ffreeloader

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Slanderous hyperbolic nonsense is all that is. China has a totalitarian government, and I have made my views on the Chicoms clear here: I agree with Trump on China -- Here's why
LOL. Then why do you support the same policies China enforces inside China being enforced in the US? Why do you support mandates? That is top down tyranny. Why do you not support individual liberty instead? Your posts on the coronavirus and the "vaccines", and your claim in this post are at opposite ends of the political spectrum.
 

ffreeloader

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You are stubbornly misinformed or willfully ignorant if you refuse to believe Fauci was instrumental n channelling American dollars into the Chinese lab that developed the coronavirus.
You will never see AB acknowledge that all the documents that have been released proving Fauci's guilt are real. He obviously believes The Intercept is an extremist website since they are the organization that released 900 pages of documents proving Fauci's guilt. AB is such a conspiracy theorist he believes all 900 documents from the NIH are fabricated and that the scientists who say the documents show that Fauci funded gain-of-function research are all dingbat loonies.

Even the leftist leaning Intercept had to acknowledge the following:
Experts now say that the documents support the contention that NIH funded gain-of-function work, though not in the specific instance where Paul alleged it. “There’s no question,” said Racaniello, of Columbia University, who pointed to the decreased weight of the mice infected with the chimeric viruses that was described in the research summaries sent to NIH. “From the weight loss, it’s gain of function. Tony Fauci is wrong saying it’s not.”

But the documents do not prove Paul’s claim that Fauci was lying, as they do not make clear whether Fauci read them. Nor do they in any way support Paul’s allegation that Fauci was “responsible for 4 million people around the world dying of a pandemic” — or that anyone intentionally caused Covid-19. What is clear is that program officers at NIAID, the agency that Fauci oversees, did know about the research.

Fauci is head of the NIH, He is fully morally responsible for what goes on under his leadership. And his claim, on video tape and sworn testimony before Congess, was that the NIH had never funded gain-of-function research. That is clearly false. If Fauci isn't lying he's clearly incompetent and out of touch with the organization he is supposed to be leading.

Furthermore, lack of evidence that Fauci knew what was happening does not mean he didn't know. It rests upon the assumption that his leading people were deliberately misleading him. In other words they had no respect for him or his leadership. Under no view of this does Fauci look good. He's either a fool or a liar, and his history says he's a liar and a crook.
 

marke

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You will never see AB acknowledge that all the documents that have been released proving Fauci's guilt are real. He obviously believes The Intercept is an extremist website since they are the organization that released 900 pages of documents proving Fauci's guilt. AB is such a conspiracy theorist he believes all 900 documents from the NIH are fabricated and that the scientists who say the documents show that Fauci funded gain-of-function research are all dingbat loonies.

Even the leftist leaning Intercept had to acknowledge the following:


Fauci is head of the NIH, He is fully morally responsible for what goes on under his leadership. And his claim, on video tape and sworn testimony before Congess, was that the NIH had never funded gain-of-function research. That is clearly false. If Fauci isn't lying he's clearly incompetent and out of touch with the organization he is supposed to be leading.

Furthermore, lack of evidence that Fauci knew what was happening does not mean he didn't know. It rests upon the assumption that his leading people were deliberately misleading him. In other words they had no respect for him or his leadership. Under no view of this does Fauci look good. He's either a fool or a liar, and his history says he's a liar and a crook.
Fauci, Bill Gates, and others predicted the pandemic long before it happened, and the circumstances and messages associated with those predictions seem to imply the pandemic was planned in advance.
 

Stripe

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The plan was to deploy vaccines amid a pandemic to drive variants into existence and keep the panic going.

The experts know that this is what vaccines do. SARS and MERS came and went without vaccines. This one has been kept alive by them.
 

ffreeloader

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The plan was to deploy vaccines amid a pandemic to drive variants into existence and keep the panic going.

The experts know that this is what vaccines do. SARS and MERS came and went without vaccines. This one has been kept alive by them.
In 1976 the swine flu vaccine program was canceled after anywhere from 3 to 53 deaths according to what source you trust. Today we have more than 35,000 deaths in Europe and an completely unreliable number in the US, 14,000+. Does anyone see any response from government today such as we saw in 1976?

 

User Name

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Then why do you support the same policies China enforces inside China being enforced in the US?
I don't "support the same policies China enforces inside China being enforced in the US." This is just more of your ignorant blather and false accusations. For example, the Chicoms will weld the doors of an apartment building shut whenever one person who lives in that building tests positive for COVID-19. Do I support that? Nope. So there.

That's the logical fallacy called false dichotomy.
It's not a fallacy when I'm just making the observation that there are people like you and yours on the negative extreme end of the spectrum who think that the vaccines are actually causing the pandemic to get worse (and then there are goofs like Mike Lindell who seem to think that people are actually being injected with the mark of the beast when they get vaccinated).

Fauci, Bill Gates, and others predicted the pandemic long before it happened, and the circumstances and messages associated with those predictions seem to imply the pandemic was planned in advance.
We've had deadly pandemics before (bubonic plague/black death, Spanish flu) so it was just a matter of time before another one came along. Infectious disease specialists, immunologists, etc, dedicate their careers to planning and dealing with this inevitability. Since another pandemic was just a matter of time, it only makes sense to plan for it, and planning involves predictions as to what we may face with a new pandemic and how best to respond to it. No wild conspiracies are needed here.

The plan was to deploy vaccines amid a pandemic to drive variants into existence and keep the panic going.

Ah, so the blame for the increasing spread of the pandemic is with those who took prudent steps to avoid it and not with those who refused to cooperate and take precautions to help prevent the virus from spreading? Got it.

The experts know that this is what vaccines do. SARS and MERS came and went without vaccines.
SARS and MERS were nowhere near as contagious as this coronavirus.
 
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