Epoisses
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Yea, I was trying to be nice. Calvinism is gospel poison.
Consequences of Unbelief or Incorrect Doctrine
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Yea, I was trying to be nice. Calvinism is gospel poison.
When it comes to false doctrine and unbelief we are not afforded the luxury of being mister nice guy.
Refute them and refute them sharply. They are enemies of the cross.
fishrovmen
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How ironic. Why don't you take your own advice?
What is this? You dig up a post that was made 2 years ago to say that? I think that you need help.
fishrovmen
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Actually, I was researching all the many contradictions that you have posted over the years when I came across this.
Which ones?
fishrovmen
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:rotfl:
fishrovmen
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Just to start the long list is your theory of imputation of sins in the judgment.
You claim that Jesus has atoned for every sin of every person in the world, yet you claim that in the judgment God will impute sins back to unbelievers, using Romans 4:8 as your "proof" even though that scripture passage is about the forgiveness of sins, not the "imputation" of sins.
I had asked you many times how sins that were already forgiven can be charged to someones account?
Either they were NOT ALL atoned for, or your blind god changed its mind, or the sins were only temporarily forgiven. What other option is there?
And I also asked you how your god that sees everything "in Christ", will know whose sins to impute back to them if this god can't see who is an unbeliever?
You also stated in another thread, or two, or twenty that this god will not judge sins in the judgment; so I asked why the imputation of previously forgiven sins then? what's the point?
You never satisfactorily answered these questions.
Your problem is that you are not a Christian, therefore you will not understand spiritual things.
For now God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. God is at peace with the world because he sees ALL THINGS in Christ. Jesus has reconciled the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19. This is the age of faith and grace.
However, when Jesus returns there will be a judgment of the whole world and everyone that has lived upon the earth. All wrongs will be made right and all rights will be rewarded. If you die outside of Christ you will be condemned.
God will impute sin to those that have died in their sins and he will impute the righteousness of Christ to those that have died in Christ.
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Nice tactic, Robert. Whenever a professing believer takes your oddities to task, you dismiss them with the charge above. We all know you have God's ear and He let's you know all about His secret will concerning those He has or will bring into the Kingdom. :AMR1:
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fishrovmen
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So we don't have the righteousness of Christ until we "die"?
Zeke
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You don't know life by observing a corpse, or dark sayings Psalms 78:2, Proverbs 1:6, Gal 4:24, that hide their spiritual pearls in the dead letters 2Cor 3:6, knowing/experience is through revelation Gal 1:12, you may believe what is wrote but people believe lots of things John 5:39, they may change their mind about, though generational indoctrination is a factor to keeping the herd believing, many are pretending they still do when the heart no longer buys the creed of the temples made with hands that promote flesh and blood sacrifice for a spiritual one, Psalms 40:6, Revelation 11:8. Experience, the leveling field that no theological schooling, belief, or wisdom can understand beyond the dead letters surface meaning, without an encounter with perfect love, creeds, doctrine, labels etc..are just institutionalized beliefs based on exoteric religious observation, monkey see monkey do Luke 17:20-21, Matt 23:13 no pagan human sacrifice need apply which is a spirit event portrayed not history Gal 3:1-5 seeing the temple and kingdom is in man Acts 17:24, 1Cor 3:16, unless belief is the god of elemental doctrines is still on the throne Hebrews 6:1-5, 2Cor 5:16.
You won't have the righteousness of Christ until you are resurrected.
The righteousness of Christ is to our account, but we don't have it yet.
Right now we are called to live our lives before God as sinners.
You don't understand spiritual things either. If you did you would not be a Calvinist.
genuineoriginal
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I am not sure what point you are trying to make here, but it seems like you are saying that the mainstream denominations are popular with people that don't want to deal with thinking about their faith.
genuineoriginal
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the righteousness of Christ has nothing to do with how we are to live our life until He comes.
Zeke
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The main point is revelation/encounter with the spirit that gathers into one spiritual knowing a symbiotic relationship with the brotherhood of man, verses, believe/belief in the spirit that divides into many separatist beliefs with a symbiotic relationship with the worlds perverted brotherhood of religious dogmas.
fishrovmen
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Well if Christ's righteousness comes through faith (Romans 3:22, Philippians 3:9) and you say you don't have His righteousness yet, then that makes you a self proclaimed unbeliever.
fishrovmen
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Another contradiction of yours to add to the long list.
You proclaim that God sees ALL THINGS in Christ as perfect and complete, yet He calls us to live as sinners?
Where do you see a calling to live as sinners in the scriptures?
2 Timothy 1:9
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We only have the first fruits or the down payment of the Holy Spirit, Romans 8:23. Paul lived his life before God as a sinner, 1 Timothy 1:15.