Church and believers are not to judge, God and Christ will judge.

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@DFT_Dave

2Cor 3:6-11 (AKJV/PCE)​

(3:6) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. (3:7) But if the ministration of death, written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which [glory] was to be done away: (3:8) How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? (3:9) For if the ministration of condemnation [be] glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. (3:10) For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. (3:11) For if that which is done away [was] glorious, much more that which remaineth [is] glorious.​

If you think that you are following the "ministration of death/ministration of condemnation", you're doing it wrong.

 

[Clete]

The question is not "should we put ourselves under the law",

the question is, is there any of the ten commandments that Christians should not practice as Christians today?

I know what you're asking. The answer is, NO!

The Answer is we should be practicing them.

No we absolutely should NOT.

It would be better for the Christian to forget that they exist.

Paul's list of what will keep you from receiving eternal life are contain in the ten commandments.

You are ignoring the context and he never once said that we ought to follow the Ten Commandments.

I'm curious to see how long it will go before you catch the drift of what I (we) are saying.

1 Corinthians 6:9–10 9 Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:19–21 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honor thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

--Dave

Unbelievers will not see the kingdom of God because of sin, yes. That much is not in dispute. Believers, on the other hand, even if they sleep with another man's wife, are not identified as adulterers (except by the civil authorities). They are identified in Christ. His righteousness and ONLY His righteousness is now their righteousness. Their wickedness has been removed - washed clean by the shed blood of Jesus Christ who willingly gave His life for sinners.

A person, if he be in Christ, is not and cannot be held accountable by God for ANY sin, no matter how grievous (This is not to be confused with crimes for which we are still accountable to the governing official for having committed.) because Christ has already been held to account for those sins. Double jeopardy is unjust, Dave. Has Jesus died for your sin, or hasn't He? Is Galatians 2:20-21 true or false?

Galatians 2: 20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.​

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There is a question you should ask me in response to this, if you are following the logic.

 

[Clete]

I do not murder because the law says so.

Then your abstinence from murder will profit you nothing.

I do not murder because it's not the right thing to do.

Better!

The law, and the right thing, are the same thing.

The Spirit also says the same thing.

--Dave

No, they are not the same!

The law has a ministry of death. The right thing leads to life. The law kills, Dave. It is the Spirit (capital S) that gives life. They couldn't be more different.

There is one and only one other thing in the whole of scripture that shared with the Law, the ministry of death. Care to guess what that was?



P.S. Dave, you are so close to seeing something important here! Stick with this and you'll see it.