Christianity And Judaism Divided

CherubRam

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Christianity and Judaism divided

Who from within has the authority to divide those in Christianity and Judaism? And by what doctrines are we divided by?
 

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Christianity and Judaism divided

Who from within has the authority to divide those in Christianity and Judaism? And by what doctrines are we divided by?

Romans 11

7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 Just as it is written:

God has given them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes that they should not see
And ears that they should not hear,
To this very day.”​

9 And David says:


“Let their table become a snare and a trap,
A stumbling block and a recompense to them.10
Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see,
And bow down their back always​

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
 

CherubRam

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Romans 11

7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 Just as it is written:

God has given them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes that they should not see
And ears that they should not hear,
To this very day.”​

9 And David says:


“Let their table become a snare and a trap,
A stumbling block and a recompense to them.10
Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see,
And bow down their back always​

11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.

That's one. Judaism in part did not believe Yahshua was the Messiah.
 

CherubRam

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Acts 12:4
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Did the Jews, or Christ and the disciples keep Easter?
 

Ben Masada

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Christianity and Judaism divided

Who from within has the authority to divide those in Christianity and Judaism? And by what doctrines are we divided by?

Christianity and Judaism have never been united from the very beginning. All blame to Paul for keeping the division alive since then through his policy of Replacement Theology.(Acts 11:26) The motifs for the division among many other reasons, run from idolatry to Hellenism.
 

Ben Masada

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Acts 12:4
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Did the Jews, or Christ and the disciples keep Easter?

Both, all the Jews and Jesus kept Passover. We should not forget that Jesus was also a Jew. Why would he do
any differently?
 

Ben Masada

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That's one. Judaism in part did not believe Yahshua was the Messiah.

The Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah because the Messiah cannot be an individual; the individual is born, lives his span of life and dies. Are we supposed to expect a Messiah in every generation? Obviously not. The Messiah is not supposed to die but to remain as a People before the Lord forever. BTW, Prophet Habakkuk gives an impressive testimony about the collective Messiah in Habakkuk 3:13.
"The Lord goes forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One." That's what the Messiah is, the Anointed One of the Lord aka the People of Israel.
 

CherubRam

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Christianity and Judaism have never been united from the very beginning. All blame to Paul for keeping the division alive since then through his policy of Replacement Theology.(Acts 11:26) The motifs for the division among many other reasons, run from idolatry to Hellenism.

Replacement Theology comes from the Old Testament. From the beginning Christianity was under attack from Orthodox Jews, who were associated with Hellenism; but also Gnostic's and Pagans were also trying to take over.
 

CherubRam

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NEVER! The Creator of the universe, according to Judaism is of an Absolute Oneness which is the opposite of the Trinity.

That is true, Orthodox Judaism never taught Trinitarianism, but there were Mystic, Gnostic, and Pagan Jews who taught such things.
 

CherubRam

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The Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah because the Messiah cannot be an individual; the individual is born, lives his span of life and dies. Are we supposed to expect a Messiah in every generation? Obviously not. The Messiah is not supposed to die but to remain as a People before the Lord forever. BTW, Prophet Habakkuk gives an impressive testimony about the collective Messiah in Habakkuk 3:13.
"The Lord goes forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One." That's what the Messiah is, the Anointed One of the Lord aka the People of Israel.

Did not Yah save His Anointed One from the grave to become Yahwah's salvation? Selah
 

CherubRam

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Psalm 16:10
because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay.
 
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