Jesus said to judge with righteous judgement.
We are judging Hoping to be the things mentioned. Thus, we tell him that he is.
Not true.
For example:
Can a Christian lose their salvation
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Jesus said to judge with righteous judgement.
We are judging Hoping to be the things mentioned. Thus, we tell him that he is.
Not true.
For example:
The difference is that I'm right, and you're not.
Whatever that's supposed to mean...
A command to resist does not inherently imply that the person to whom that command was given will always follow that command, willingly or not.
Indeed. Thus, the command to resist. Supra.
If sin is not inside our bodies how do we become sinful beings? We inherited it from Adam and Eve. Remember their first son was the first murderer. It's an inherited problem. Being equipped to live without sin does not mean we have lost out power of choice and the devil will tempt us until he is destroyed in the lake of fire.
Furthermore only two men were ever translated without seeing death, Enoch who scripture says walked with God 365 years and then was not because God took him, and Elijah of whom prophecy spoke about the spirit and power of Elijah. If humanity can live sinlessly why have only two men in six thousansd years of sin been translated?
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We'll find out on the day of judgement.
Just because something is possible doesn't mean it has to happen.
Those reborn of God's seed will obey God...always.
Those who don't resist are not of God's seed.
By committing sin.
That isn't what scripture days..."The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him." (Ezek 18:20)
Sin is not inherited.
Adam never killed anyone, so from whom did Cain inherit it from ?
That is for sure.
Thankfully, though, God has provided everything we need to remain pure on earth.
Jesus did it too.
He is our example of walking in and after the Spirit instead of in and after the flesh.
Don't forget what Jesus said..."And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 11:26)
Do you believe Him ?
Life transcends the condition of the vessel.
It seems to me we have discussed this lone event before. Is one person out of how many millions of homosexuals really a record of success? It doesn't look like that to me. That's a success of .000000001% if there are only 1,000,000 homosexuals in the US and I'm positive there are a lot more than that. That doesn't look like a good success ratio to me.Jesus said to judge with righteous judgement.
We are judging Hoping to be the things mentioned. Thus, we tell him that he is.
Not true.
For example:
Use some common sense. Adam and Eve's first so committed the first murder. Why? We inhererited sin from Adam and Eve as there is no other way for us to have sins of the flesh.
Paul said he was sold under sin. Did he sell himself, or did someone else sell him out?
How did Cain become the first murderer if he didn't have a sinful nature?
Paul was really smart guy yet he is supposed to have sold himself out to sin? What does carnal mean?
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You've already admitted that you don't even know whether or not you are obeying God.
If one cannot obey God without always obeying God, then, since you don't know that you will always obey God, you don't know that you have ever obeyed God.
People (such as yourself, and Calvinists) who trumpet the asinine, false claim that "If you do not persevere in doing X perpetually, without failing to do X, then you've never done X!" show that they, themselves, don't even believe that asinine, false claim, every time they say out of the other side of their mouth, "I am presently doing X"/"I have been doing X".
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False. You're wrong again. Adam killed himself:
| But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. |
Adam knew he would die by eating the fruit. He ate the fruit anyway, thereby killing himself.
Adam killed everyone:
| Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. |
So from Adam.
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In other words, "Stop being a fool, @Hoping." Why, @Gary K, do you throw such a fit when others speak derogatorily, yet you always give yourself a free pass to do the very same thing? Stop being a hypocrite, hypocrite.
Do you really think your saying to @Hoping, "Use some common sense," is not an ad hominem attack on him?
Do you really think your saying to @Hoping, "Use some common sense," will get him to use some common sense?
We inherited death from Adam.
Nothing more.
Sins of the flesh are sins done while in the flesh.
Thank God we can now walk in the Spirit, instead of in the flesh.
While he was still "in the flesh", he was under the Law of Moses.
As for what "sold under sin" means, however, is unknown to me.
It seems like some old Jewish saying, or perhaps a saying of the old English translators of the Greek scripts.
That Rom. 7 use of the phrase is the only time it is in the bible.
If you think about it though, his first sin showed whom he served, (John 8:34), so he in fact sold himself to that which he served.
He became a murderer by killing Abel.
He was a human born of a human, and had a human nature.
Carnal means both "of the flesh", and "acting on behalf of the flesh".
My synonyms' include "worldly oriented", "free of the Spirit", and "me first/you later".
I don't care how you see it, as my Lord is not of this world.
Our opinions differ.
I won't quit hoping for you.
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Correct. Agreed. This.
I, and everyone else, knows if they are obeying God.
Where did I say "I don't know if I am obeying God" ?
Not knowing my future doesn't disqualify me from knowing my past.
Why would you think it does ?
What I do now had a starting date.
By the grace of God, (and plenty of other help), I will continue to walk in the light-God until my last breath.
You know...I would like to see the context of my "I don't know if I'm right" comment.
But your ideas contradict scripture. I don't think you're a guy who will willingly contradict scripture long term so I look forward to the time when you change your mind.
What scrip' do you refer to ?