Let's see now. You have called Paul and John liars and now you are calling Isaiah a liar. What about Jeremiah? Is he a liar also?
Calvinism: You Must Already be Saved to Get Saved?
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Let's see now. You have called Paul and John liars and now you are calling Isaiah a liar. What about Jeremiah? Is he a liar also?
God's Truth
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You are the liar by saying I call them liars.
Just because you misuse their scriptures by not having understanding doesn't give you the right to lie and SAY I CALLED THEM LIARS.
You deceitful false witness. Don't you have any care for truth?
You should know better than that.
Calvinist do not have the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is only given to those that have come to Christ as repentant sinners to be saved by him. They have heard and believe the Gospel.
Of course you call them liars. When you reject what they say that is the same as calling them liars.
You are the one that is a liar, not them.
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I prove my beliefs with scriptures.
Jesus says obey, and you say that is not to us, and or you say he was being ironic.
Just believe what Jesus says. Jesus says to obey him.
Obey him and THEN YOU will receive the Holy Spirit.
6days
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I think you are a Calvinist coming out of the closet!
You did say "Only those who are truth seekers will be enlightened. It is the work of the Holy Spirit."
Not coming out of the closet but he is being convicted by the Holy spirit that Calvinism is right. He is still laying on the ground though not yet saved
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You can think what you please.
I am not a Calvinist. My focus is on the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ and all that it calls into question, which is religion.
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Not coming out of the closet but he is being convicted by the Holy spirit that Calvinism is right. He is still laying on the ground though not yet saved
There is where one of your problems begin. We are not lifeless bones.
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Both John and Paul say that you are a sinner.
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us" John 1:8.
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That is about having to admit you are a sinner and repent of those sins before you can be saved.
All false teachers have one thing in common. They all deny what the Bible says and try to change it.
Jesus said, "If you were blind, you should have no sin: but now you say, We see; therefore your sin remains" John 9:41.
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Both of you deny the saving blood of Christ !
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All false teachers do what you do, they ignore scriptures and then falsely accuse.
If you were as righteous as you think that you are you would be in heaven.
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You just proved what I said.
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This topic is BORING!
Pateism and GTism are getting violent
Pateism and TulipBeeism?
You must hate Paul and John. You hate anyone that accuses you of being a sinner.
You are going to be in the Lord, Lord, didn't I Group. "But Lord, Lord, didn't I keep the commandments?"