Agreed, yet still doesnt answer your assertion that " God cannot see all things" and actually this answer supports Gods omnipresence, and omniscience.
Calvinism: You Must Already be Saved to Get Saved?
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Agreed, yet still doesnt answer your assertion that " God cannot see all things" and actually this answer supports Gods omnipresence, and omniscience.
If God saw this sinful world as it is there would be judgment and condemnation.
Jesus sits at the right hand of God as our intercessor and mediator, 1 Timothy 2:5. He is presenting his righteousness on behalf of all of humanity.
I don't have all of the answers, only what is revealed in scripture.
fishrovmen
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What is revealed in Scripture is that God DID see the sin of the world, and in his forbearance passed over those sins that were committed and then judged His own Son in the place of the sinner so that He might be the justifier of the ones having faith in His risen Son.
So you can scrap your unbiblical and heretical blind deity that cant wait to open its eyes and judge sins that were already forgiven and taken care of.
There are many Scripture passages that tell us that God (who made the eye) also sees. His eyes are upon the righteous, whom He guides with His eye.
Can't be any clearer!
When Christ returns he will not be coming back to judge sin. He will be coming back to judge believers and unbelievers. When he finds an unbeliever, his sins will be imputed back to him, Romans 4:8 and he will be condemned. See the parable of the wedding guest that did not have on a robe of righteousness, Matthew 22:11-14.
He has a plan. He's calling out a people for his namesake.
See:
Predestination and Will: How are predestination and election connected with foreknowledge?
Does God Elect Everyone?
There is not going to be anyone in heaven that did not chose to be there with Christ. Can you imagine what heaven would be like if people were made to be there?
If you want to be elect--be elect. :idunno: If men never had a choice, then God is a monster when he sends people to hell. He's not a monster--so, when you go to hell, :listen: you're getting exactly what you deserve.
See:
Ro 8:28 McGee
It would be hell. :shocked: You're right. Men go to heaven because they have humbled themselves before the Lord. :straight:
Right, so be reconciled (Heb. 11:8–16). :juggle:
You think you had no choice but to believe and love the Lord? :AMR:
Why are you here in heaven, fishrovmen?
I'm here because I had no choice. :banana: I'm so awesome--God couldn't resist me and I couldn't resist him.
What about appropriate his free gift of grace don't you get? :freak: Ps. 119:11
Yes. You cannot be kind of sort of pregnant and you can't be kind of sort of a Christian. You've :straight: passed from death to life :listen: or, you :reals: have not (1 Jn 3:14). This isn't rocket science.
The Lord seeks everybody (Jn 3:16, 2 Pe 3:9). Some repent. :straight: Others do not. :reals: Acts 2:37, 38, 11:18
Ro 8:16 :straight:
Right. Is 46:10
"God views Jesus slain before the foundation of the world. The names are written before the foundation of the world." Re 13:8 ~ John Piper
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