ECT Book of Esther destroys MAD doctrine.

[Lazy afternoon]

The preparation of Esther to become Queen prefigures the preparation of the bride of Christ to reign with Christ on His throne.

Esther replaced the former queen Vashti who was too busy with herself to honor the King with her presence when called.

Est 1:19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

This is the picture of Jesus coming at the first--

Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


Those who prepared Esther represent the ministers of the new covenant of this age.

Paul was one such minister of the new covenant--

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

2Co 3:2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Co 3:4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
2Co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Esther was a believer in the God of Abraham, (as all true Christians are)

Believers are not automatically chosen to be part of the Bride at conversion for many are called but few are chosen.

Est 2:5 Now in Shushan the palace there was a certain Jew, whose name was Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite;

Est 2:7 And he brought up Hadassah, that is, Esther, his uncle's daughter: for she had neither father nor mother, and the maid was fair and beautiful; whom Mordecai, when her father and mother were dead, took for his own daughter.

Mordecai is of course a figure of Jesus Christ, and that confuses people somewhat, because they are taught by men such doctrines which are not true.

(Please note that Joseph was not the King in Egypt either.)

Est 2:15 Now when the turn of Esther, the daughter of Abihail the uncle of Mordecai, who had taken her for his daughter, was come to go in unto the king, she required nothing but what Hegai the king's chamberlain, the keeper of the women, appointed. And Esther obtained favour in the sight of all them that looked upon her.
Est 2:16 So Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign.
Est 2:17 And the king loved Esther above all the women, and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins; so that he set the royal crown upon her head, and made her queen instead of Vashti.

No, it is not speaking of a pre-trib rapture.

Continued after the usual arguments, giving time to read the whole book.

LA

 

[patrick jane]

The preparation of Esther to become Queen prefigures the preparation of the bride of Christ to reign with Christ on His throne.

Esther replaced the former queen Vashti who was too busy with herself to honor the King with her presence when called.

Est 1:19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

This is the picture of Jesus coming at the first--

Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Those who prepared Esther are the ministers of the new covenant of this age.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Paul was one such minister of the new covenant--

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

2Co 3:2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Co 3:4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
2Co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Esther was a believer in the God of Abraham, (as all true Christians are)

Believers are not automatically chosen to be part of the Bride at conversion for many are called but few are chosen.

Est 2:5 Now in Shushan the palace there was a certain Jew, whose name was Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite;

Est 2:7 And he brought up Hadassah, that is, Esther, his uncle's daughter: for she had neither father nor mother, and the maid was fair and beautiful; whom Mordecai, when her father and mother were dead, took for his own daughter.

Mordecai is of course a figure of Jesus Christ, and that confuses people somewhat, because they are taught by men such doctrines which are not true.

(Please note that Joseph was not the King in Egypt either.)

Est 2:15 Now when the turn of Esther, the daughter of Abihail the uncle of Mordecai, who had taken her for his daughter, was come to go in unto the king, she required nothing but what Hegai the king's chamberlain, the keeper of the women, appointed. And Esther obtained favour in the sight of all them that looked upon her.
Est 2:16 So Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign.
Est 2:17 And the king loved Esther above all the women, and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins; so that he set the royal crown upon her head, and made her queen instead of Vashti.

No, it is not speaking of a pre-trib rapture.

Continued after the usual arguments, giving time to read the whole book.

LA

tell 'em LA :singer:

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Proving what so far--

Proving what so far--

1. The rulership of the Kingdom of the Jews was not just set aside temporarily, when Jesus came and they rejected Him, but were banished forever.

2. The true Church (not RCC or churches (plural)) of this age is the continuance of the elect people of God scattered among the nations.

3. That Paul was a minister of the new covenant (NT) among many ministers then and since who prepare the Bride of Christ in this age.

4. That not all virgins waiting for the return of Christ are members of the Bride (and nothing is said of the unwise virgins going to hell either)

LA

 

[Cross Reference]

1. The rulership of the Kingdom of the Jews was not just set aside temporarily, when Jesus came and they rejected Him, but were banished forever.

2. The true Church (not RCC or churches (plural)) of this age is the continuance of the elect people of God scattered among the nations.

3. That Paul was a minister of the new covenant (NT) among many ministers then and since who prepare the Bride of Christ in this age.

4. That not all virgins waiting for the return of Christ are members of the Bride (and nothing is said of the unwise virgins going to hell either)

LA

Certainly fits with Rev 12 and 13.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

This is the church of early Acts, which you can not get into no matter how badly you want to. That church is a nation, and a kingdom of priests.

You want to get into a church you cannot get into, and spurn the church that you are allowed into.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

3. That Paul was a minister of the new covenant (NT) among many ministers then and since who prepare the Bride of Christ in this age.

What is the spirit of the new testament?

Paul tells us.

 

[revpete]

Well now, I wonder what scripture twisting we're gonna hear to wangle outa that one?

Blessings: Pete

 

[Lazy afternoon]

This is the church of early Acts, which you can not get into no matter how badly you want to. That church is a nation, and a kingdom of priests.

You want to get into a church you cannot get into, and spurn the church that you are allowed into.

You are not in the true Church which is His body which has the Spirit of the Bride.

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;


I have read the fruit of your invented extra body and it sure is not pretty.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

LA

 

[heir]

This is the church of early Acts, which you can not get into no matter how badly you want to. That church is a nation, and a kingdom of priests.

You want to get into a church you cannot get into, and spurn the church that you are allowed into.

That's why he/she is LA Lost

 

[heir]

What is the spirit of the new testament?

Paul tells us.

:jump:

 

[Lazy afternoon]

That's why he/she is LA Lost

Heir hitler,


You are preaching from your learned religious sect, and not from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
LA

 

[way 2 go]

Well now, I wonder what scripture twisting we're gonna hear to wangle outa that one?

Blessings: Pete

untwisting

 

[heir]

Heir hitler,


You are preaching from your learned religious sect, and not from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
LA

LazyA~Their salvation is future!

Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Acts 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:


Now, answer SaulToPaul's question.

 

[Right Divider]

You are not in the true Church which is His body which has the Spirit of the Bride.

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;


I have read the fruit of your invented extra body and it sure is not pretty.

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

LA

LA has NO idea what scripture means and will grab a passage here and a passage there, throw them in a blender and pour out some "juicy" doctrine. I wonder if LA every read Matthew from the beginning.

Mat 1:1-17 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. (2) Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; (3) And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; (4) And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; (5) And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; (6) And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; (7) And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; (8) And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; (9) And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; (10) And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; (11) And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: (12) And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; (13) And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; (14) And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; (15) And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; (16) And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. (17) So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
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Why all of the "begats"?

What about Matthew 10, LA?

Mat 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: (6) But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
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Is this also an instruction that we are to follow?

You have no idea what the context is in ANY of the scripture.You are the blind trying to lead everyone into the ditch.

 

[Omniskeptical]

The book of Esther is an uninspired turd. They make their way to the king only to get the right to defend themselves which they already had. What a rubbish ending!

 

[Stripe]

Is LA on a mission or something?

:think:

 

[Tambora]

The book of Esther is an uninspired turd.

No, it's not.

They make their way to the king only to get the right to defend themselves which they already had. What a rubbish ending!

Sorry you don't like the way God does things.

 

[Nick M]

So in Esther it says Romans 5 is false and Paul is a liar?

 

[Lazy afternoon]

That's why he/she is LA Lost

Heir hitler,


You are preaching from your learned religious sect, and not from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
LA

LazyA~Their salvation is future!

Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Acts 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:


Now, answer SaulToPaul's question.

The whole world now can see you are of a religious sect.

LA

 

[way 2 go]

LA has NO idea what scripture means and will grab a passage here and a passage there, throw them in a blender and pour out some "juicy" doctrine.

he\she has a great deal of blending in the OP :freak: