Of course it can, and it will. Someone must run against the GOP. But as labor loses the ability to organize, the priorities of the party may shift away from labor, which is generally bad for people with jobs.
are you a feminist?
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Of course it can, and it will. Someone must run against the GOP. But as labor loses the ability to organize, the priorities of the party may shift away from labor, which is generally bad for people with jobs.
PureX
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When everyone in Wisconsin is working for minimum wage, and the state is having to come up with food stamps, health care, and utility money for all those people who aren't making enough to eat, pay for health care, and heat their homes; then the republican party will have 'killed itself'.
The only reason the republicans hate unions is because the unions tend to support democrats. So as they pass laws that bust unions, the worker's wages and protections vanish. Basically, the republicans are sacrificing the family wage-earner just to win elections. And you're helping them do it. But of course you're too stupid to see that. You think that a family bread-earner shouldn't be paid enough to feed, cloth, house, and heal his family. And you don't even know why you think that.
public sector unions have now surpassed private unions
out teachers, police, firemen, etc are forced to pay dues
and
they have no problem getting their excessive wages, healthcare benefits, and pensions
because
they negotiate with the very people they support with political donations
out teachers, police, firemen, etc are forced to pay dues
and
they have no problem getting their excessive wages, healthcare benefits, and pensions
because
they negotiate with the very people they support with political donations
many states now face massive deficits
primarily due to excessive pension benefits
demanded by the state union employees
the worst pension shortfall in the U.S.
primarily due to excessive pension benefits
demanded by the state union employees
the worst pension shortfall in the U.S.
PureX
Well-known member
Why do you think their wages are "excessive"? I don't see any teachers, cops, or firemen living like corporate CEOs or politicians, do you? Why do you care so much about what the teacher, the cop and the fireman make but you don't care at all about the excessive wages and bonuses of CEOs and politicians? At least the former DO SOMETHING for us to earn their money! All the latter do is think up endless new ways to screw us all. And yet at every turn, you want to punish the people who actually work for our well-being, while you continue to ignore and excuse those who seek to enslave and exploit us by every means possible.
What is wrong with you???
our taxes do not pay the salaries of corporate executives
except for
general motors and chrysler
after
unions forced them into bankruptcy
PureX
Well-known member
States are facing these deficits because the people in them aren't making enough money to live on, and the state is having to pay the difference. They are becoming welfare states because everyone's wages are so depressed that they can't survive. Busting unions and giving tax brakes to big businesses to get them to come in and bring more low-paying jobs is not a solution. It's just encouraging the economic death spiral.
Again, why are you blaming the "excessive" pensions of people who actually WORK for a living, serving their community, while you completely ignore the corporate greed and political corruption that's causing these states to fall into debt?
Why do you hate teachers, cops, and fireman so much? Why do you continue to make excuses for the greed of corporate CEOs and the politicians that they bribe to screw us all?
they work for us
we pay them with our taxes
and
the corporate greed you talk about is providing us with real jobs
so
we can pay taxes
something state employees really can't do
Odd that his argument of "what about the children" tends to be swept under the table when it's *those* children who are going without.
the democratic party solution
is
to abort them before they become a problem
is
to abort them before they become a problem
The problem with this right-to-work nonsense is that, while unions are obligated to defend the rights of the whole workforce, they are being prevented from collecting dues from everyone. So, essentially they are being forced to work for voluntary contributions. How much do you pay for a service that is available for free?
Yeah, that's really the problem with the economy today. Excessive wages and other perks like being able to see a doctor and the ability to retire eventually.
But, if we kill of the pensions, what money will hedge fund managers steal?
Because businesses never do that sort of things. It would be wrong.
:doh:
you ignore the obvious
you don't have to buy their cars
if
the union sucks the blood out of a car company
but
your only option
is
to vote republican
if
the union sucks the blood out of our public schools
I thought of another definition for feminist
any woman who has lost her femininity
what may be her most valuable possession
once you lose it
can you ever get it back?
yes, women have come a long way since then. those statutes are absolutely pitiful -
atrol:
Odd how you use the words woman, femininity and possession in the same paragraph? :think:
many women consider their man to be their most valuable possession
you just have to keep him
it just depends on the way you look at it
There is no other way to look at it. Possessions are things. People are not things. Nor should we treat them as much.