Are Abortion Protests Effective?

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Freedom Train said:
False. A fetus is not a "baby".
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Funny they look like living, human, babies.



Freedom Train said:
I tend to avoid gatherings of terrorists myself.
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You avoid your own kind? Odd.:think:

Freedom Train said:
I once saw a Romish church with the little popsickle stick crosses when a kid who was raped and impregnated by her father and then had an abortion was with me and after that I was ready to get my hands around that priest's neck and squeeze.
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To bad you didn't squeeze harder you might have broke your neck!
 
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Freedom Train said:
False. A fetus is not a "baby".
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The word fetus while it sounds all technical simply means unborn offspring! A fetal pig is a pig! A fetal dog is a dog! A human fetus is a human! Quit pretending that word games change reality!
 
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Knight said:
Says who? You?

You are a moron.
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You're the moron; you can't prove your whiny little assertion. Your opinion on that is based on nothing but your own little immature emotions.

There is not a thing you can do to stop abortion. Keep your stinking paws off women's uteri.
 
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Freedom Train said:
You're the moron; you can't prove your whiny little assertion. Your opinion on that is based on nothing but your own little immature emotions.

There is not a thing you can do to stop abortion. Keep your stinking paws off women's uteri.
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If memory serves, it was you who made the assertion you flaming retard.

You are simply too stupid to participate on this forum. :wave2:
 
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You can always play this game,
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It's really fun :D
 
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Hm... They just had a protest at my school about abortion and stuff... There were like a whole bunch of pro-life people on one side and a whole bunch of pro-choice on the other.

And of course, everyone just ignored them.

Sometimes, I think they these protests are just pointless because most people just don't care. It's been brought up that abortion is "murder" but I think a lot of people could care less. As long as they're not suffering, they'll do whatever.

Now... I'm going to warn some people. I'm a total people hater and I don't get out much, so my opinion probably all twisted and hypocritical and stuff.
But... this is my opinion and people are entitled to their opinions so... okay.

If you don't want to get pregnant, then don't screw.

To Christians who are pro-choice:
I have noticed that many people do get abortions and claim to be Christians. But... if you were really a Christian, you wouldn't have sex before marriage. And the only reason you should be having sex is to procreate. So there shouldn't be a reason to get an abortion. There shouldn't be a matter of babies going into heaven rather than growing up cursing god.

To people who are financially unstable:
Maybe you should've thought about that before you decided to have sex. And no you don't have you give up your joys and pleasure. Girls, you have toys, and boys, you have hands

To rape victims:
That day when my school had the protest, I got a pamphlet from the pro-life people which had a story about a man who killed his sister because she got raped and got pregnant. He said that it was her fault for getting raped.

I couldn't help but agree with that and some of you are probably thinking that I'm a sick person. But seriously, every time I hear about a rape on TV, some stupid idiot always decides to go jogging at night alone or wasn't paying attention to their surroundings or got drunk at a bar, etc... If that wasn't the case, I'm sorry but getting the abortion won't un-scar you or make it so the incident never happened. You're always going to remember it. And... getting an abortion may even add to your pain (guilt and all).

And those who just don't want kids:
Get your tubes tied or something. It'll cost less than to just keep getting abortions.


I think people need to be more responsible for their actions. You can't always run away just because something is inconvenient for you.

But either way, if abortion was made illegal, people would still get them and put their own lives at risk. So... this whole topic of abortion is kinda useless I think. It's impossible to change everyone's minds.

Who knows, if I happen to get pregnant, I might very well change my mind and get an abortion.

Yes I'm a hypocrite.
 
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Knight said:
I asked TOL's own Truthtreker and Denver Bible Church member Jo Scott to shed some light on what goes on in the pro-life movement (at street level) and she sent me the following email today.

The following email is EXTREMELY POWERFUL!

Please read it and let me know what you think. Jo and folks like her are the real heroes in my eyes.

Abortion protests have always left a bad taste in the mouth of the Christian Church. At first glance the protests are loud, they include horrific depictions of aborted babies, and they are completely unsophisticated. A sidewalk counselor is a person who deliberately sticks her nose into someone else’s business without invitation. Couple that first impression with constant bias media coverage and the abominable teaching in today’s churches that Christians are not to judge and you have the perfect “Christian” excuse for not getting involved in the fight to protect the unborn. “Those protesters are judgmental, unloving, scripturally ignorant people who are making all Christians look bad”.

While Christians piously point their fingers at the picketers and sidewalk counselors the reality is that everyday innocent children are scheduled to be viciously pulled from the mother’s wombs and sold for parts. They are dying hideous deaths at the hands of abortionists who are laughing all the way to the bank. Pro-life protesters cannot let that happen without at least begging for the lives of the unborn children and confronting their mothers with the truth about what they are doing.

We’ve been told that we should run crisis pregnancy centers and minister to women that way. CPCs are a fine way to minister to a woman who hasn’t already made up her mind to kill her child. The ministry in the street is to reach the woman who has it set in her heart to kill her child and has scheduled an appointment to do so. We are determined to save /that/ child. We have 10 to 30 seconds to make an impression on her that is so strong that she will at least have to think about what she is doing; thus the graphic pictures, loud talking and in our case, standing on ladders to insure eye contact with the mom.

A while back I had a very emotional conversation with a young woman who was convinced that an abortion was the only solution for her problems. After about an hour she agreed that she would not kill her child and she allowed me to take her to the local crisis pregnancy center for an ultra sound. There was a flood of tears on the way to the cpc as she came to terms with the reality of her life and what she needed to do for success and happiness in the future. She had finally realized that the easy way out was not easy in the long run and it was definitely not a way out. While waiting for the young mom I was confronted by the director of the cpc. I will never forget what she said to me, “I don ’t agree with what you do. We have to put these women (that you take here) back together emotionally after you are through with them.” I was stunned at her lack of understanding for the situation. I answered, “It’s a lot easier to put the mother back together than it is the baby”.

The truth is that we save about 100 children a year standing on the street outside of Planned Parenthood in Denver. Also, with the help of many people and organizations we can provide the moms with what they need to be successful, including housing and education. We believe that true happiness will only come with a saving knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ, so not all the time, but sometimes, we are able to lead the moms to Christ.

And we are not the only ones. There are gentle saints standing on the streets in front of abortion clinics in every state in the country. They risk their livelihoods, their reputations, their positions in their churches and their communities all without batting an eye because they understand that we are to rescue those who are unjustly led to the slaughter. Prov.31:8&9 That’s love.

We have watched in horror over the past three decades as unwitting Christians and politicians have compromised the personhood of the unborn by implementing laws that chose how, when and who will be sacrificed for some group to feel good about themselves and the “progress” they’re making in the fight against abortion.

Will abortion protesters or sidewalk counselors ever end abortion? Absolutely not! They will stop some abortions, but only a healthy, living and loving church can end abortion. A healthy church feeds on the Word and is equipped to reach the world for Christ. It does not look to politicians, lawyers, or psychologists for guidance and direction. A living and loving church reaches out to the world around them with truth. It is able tear down the strongholds of evil and confront the sins of the day without compromise, without apology and without exception. We pray that one day the church will assume it's responsibilities and love God enough to stand for Him. That will be the day that abortion will end.

Are sidewalk counselors and abortion protesters effective? If compared to what is happening on other anti abortion fronts the protesters are making a difference daily in the lives of families in every state in the union. If a child isn't rescued, a young woman is convicted of her sin and that is always a good thing. I think that you will have to admit that however unsophisticated, however grotesque, or however loud, there are thousands of children alive today that would have been killed if not for the abortion protesters and sidewalk counselors. Every day that there is an abortion protester or sidewalk counselor outside of an abortion mill it reminds the world that God has not forgotten the unborn. My husband Ken and I have been on the sidewalks outside of an abortion mill most days for years and we have been privileged to see some of the children that we rescued grow up to be fine upstanding young men and women. It is our opinion that if we had only saved one life in all these years every minute on the street would have been well spent.

God Bless,

Ken and Jo Scott

Thank you Jo Scott and God bless you and your husband and all of the other people who have joined you and help with your cause! :up:
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How exactly can anyone know how many "babies are saved" by these people unless they follow the pregnant woman until she actually gives birth. Just because those women may not enter the clinic that day, doesn't mean she doesn't come back, go to another clinic or take something to induce miscarriage. I think that specifying numbers is delusional UNLESS one can and does follow the pregnancy to birth. A woman would be likely to tell these bullies what they want to hear just so they'll leave her alone and then go ahead with her plan to abort by some other means. I think protesting is ineffective and just makes the public at large view these people as fringe radicals and then summarily dismiss them as having nothing of value to offer.
 
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"I think protesting is ineffective and just makes the public at large view these people as fringe radicals and then summarily dismiss them as having nothing of value to offer."

Stop thinking, people die when you think.
 
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