Thanks for your reply.
No need to assume. In laypersons' terms it is proved beyond any doubt. We can discuss the evidence again if you wish.
Interruption: No it is NOT proved let alone beyond any doubt. While God is a 'common' denominator, it doesn't mean all things 'evolved' from the same 'onion.' It'd be like saying a house evolved from a foundation. :nono: I'm only 70% in common with an onion. A brick house only has a little in common with its brick foundation.
There is no division there at all. We are a species of African great ape.
Even Darwin doesn't believe this. It believes we 'may' have an earlier common ancestor 'with' apes, not 'from' apes. Ever see the experiment where the story changes from person to person? You are doing it.
Birds are direct descendants of theropod dinosaurs. You may just as well say that birds are dinosaurs.
My brother, a biologist, says 'no.' Assumptions, best-guesses are not facts. He said that it did not have adequate characteristics thus was likely a species all its own that died out.
Cows and whales last shared a common ancestor about 80 million years ago. Between 75 million and 85 million years ago is the time of divergence of lines leading to many modern mammal species.
Its a 'theory.' A 'speculation.' How wild the guess depends on which scientists agree and which do not. Read with me: "Looking at a whale’s body and biology, there are plenty of
clues that their ancestors..."
U.S.Whales.org A guess or extrapolation is science, but it SHOULD NOT be overstated as if 'fact.' The problem with a lot of scientists and science readers is that they don't pay attention to what is substantiated vs. what is a 'best guess.' Many scientists pseudo-scientists would argue it is not, when
in fact, it is not a fact that everybody or anybody can verify with a couple of classes. That college class simply does not exist. Fact.
I disagree it's all just time. It is accumulated selected changes over time.
It's been two seconds: show me the results of a split from a duckbill platypus. :nono: Not even 100 years will do it. We literally have no transitional species. There is no 'aquatic' panda-like creature FROM a panda. No Galapagos iguana has grown flippers. Those involved in science MUST look at all data, not just base ideas on whims and call it 'science education.' Such is irresponsible.
Mammals and walnuts last shared a common ancestor about 1,200,000,000 years ago. Good luck imagining a million lots of 1000 years. Back at that stage the ancestor looks like neither a plant nor an animal. It is a single-celled alga.
A brick wall and a cement foundation are 'related' not derivative of one another. It is 'making it up' to try and put pieces in a puzzle that are missing and there is a LOT missing. Creationism is science' best friend at the moment. It challenges truth from theory and helps science to be better and weed out all the pesky conjecture. In short, all of this discussion on TOL is very good both for science and theology, however exasperated any particular gets.
Spans of time for which I have no direct personal comparison. That doesn't mean it isn't the reality of natural history on earth.
Stuart
It is my estimation that there are plenty of missing pieces in both science speculation and the Biblical account that we can all be a bit more humble and present evidence rather than bold assertions. I was presented with a LOT of bold assertions in science and Bible classes. A good mind will necessarily question bold assertions, regardless of where they come from.
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