A Saviour unto Israel

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And the man Jesus of who it is said in Acts 3: 13; "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus," who is now incontestably divine and sits in the throne of our Father, and who, in Revelation 3: 21; Invites all, who like himself are able to win the victory over the ruler of this world, to sit beside him in the throne of Godhead to the creation.

John 14: 30; Jesus says; I cannot talk to you much longer, because the ruler of this world (DEATH) is coming. He has no power over me, but the world must know that I love the Father; that is why I do everything as he commands me.

beloved57 responded........Rabbit trail.

S-word.........Tell me beloved57, do you deny that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus? And do you deny that Jesus of Nazareth is now incontestably divine?

And tell me beloved57, do you deny that Jesus, in Revelation 3: 21; said, that to those who win the victory, I will give the right to sit beside me on my throne, just as I have been victorious and now sit beside my Father on his throne? See GNB Catholic Study Edition.

Tell me beloved57, do you deny that Jesus said in John 24: 30; "I cannot talk to you much longer, because the ruler of this world (DEATH) is coming. He has no power over me, but the world must know that I love the Father; that is why I do everything as he commands me?"

Do you really believe that the words recorded in the Holy Scriptures are no more than a rabbit trail?
 

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Quote Originally Posted by S-word View Post

And the man Jesus of who it is said in Acts 3: 13; "The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus," who is now incontestably divine and sits in the throne of our Father, and who, in Revelation 3: 21; Invites all, who like himself are able to win the victory over the ruler of this world, to sit beside him in the throne of Godhead to the creation.

John 14: 30; Jesus says; I cannot talk to you much longer, because the ruler of this world (DEATH) is coming. He has no power over me, but the world must know that I love the Father; that is why I do everything as he commands me.

beloved57 responded........Rabbit trail.

S-word.........Tell me beloved57, do you deny that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus? And do you deny that Jesus of Nazareth is now incontestably divine?

And tell me beloved57, do you deny that Jesus, in Revelation 3: 21; said, that to those who win the victory, I will give the right to sit beside me on my throne, just as I have been victorious and now sit beside my Father on his throne? See GNB Catholic Study Edition.

Tell me beloved57, do you deny that Jesus said in John 24: 30; "I cannot talk to you much longer, because the ruler of this world (DEATH) is coming. He has no power over me, but the world must know that I love the Father; that is why I do everything as he commands me?"

Do you really believe that the words recorded in the Holy Scriptures are no more than a rabbit trail?

More Rabbit trail.
 

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To which church are you referring, the Apostolic church which was founded in Jerusalem, or the Roman church, which was firmly established as the one and only so called Christian church, by Emperor Constantine in the fourth century A.D.? That church who claims to be the shepherd of God's people, which is the fulfilment of the prophecy in Zechariah 11: 12-17.

The word Christ is derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christos), which is a translation of the Hebrew משיח (Meshiakh), meaning the "anointed" and usually transliterated into English as "Messiah".

When was the Man Jesus anointed by God? Forget about the time that he was anointed by Mary the sister of Lazarus, of which Jesus said to Judas; "Leave her alone. She did this in preparation for my burial."



Jn.15:1(Y.L.T.)* ‘I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman;
2every branch in me not bearing fruit, He doth take it away, and every one bearing fruit, He doth cleanse by pruning it, that it may bear more fruit;
3already ye are clean, because of the word that I have spoken to you;
4remain in me, and I in you, as the branch is not able to bear fruit of itself, if it may not remain in the vine, so neither ye, if ye may not remain in me.
5‘I am the vine, ye the branches; he who is remaining in me, and I in him, this one doth bear much fruit, because apart from me ye are not able to do anything;
6if any one may not remain in me, he was cast forth without as the branch, and was withered, and they gather them, and cast to fire, and they are burned;
7if ye may remain in me, and my sayings in you may remain, whatever ye may wish ye shall ask, and it shall be done to you.
8‘In this was my Father glorified, that ye may bear much fruit, and ye shall become my disciples. 9According as the Father did love me, I also loved you, remain in my love;
10if my commandments ye may keep, ye shall remain in my love, according as I the commands of my Father have kept, and do remain in His love;
11these things I have spoken to you, that my joy in you may remain, and your joy may be full.



Rev.21:15(K.J.V.) And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel



1Tim.2:5(D.R.B.) For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

the man Christ Jesus.


Peace.
 

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Jn.15:1(Y.L.T.)* ‘I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman;
2every branch in me not bearing fruit, He doth take it away, and every one bearing fruit, He doth cleanse by pruning it, that it may bear more fruit;
3already ye are clean, because of the word that I have spoken to you;
4remain in me, and I in you, as the branch is not able to bear fruit of itself, if it may not remain in the vine, so neither ye, if ye may not remain in me.
5‘I am the vine, ye the branches; he who is remaining in me, and I in him, this one doth bear much fruit, because apart from me ye are not able to do anything;
6if any one may not remain in me, he was cast forth without as the branch, and was withered, and they gather them, and cast to fire, and they are burned;
7if ye may remain in me, and my sayings in you may remain, whatever ye may wish ye shall ask, and it shall be done to you.
8‘In this was my Father glorified, that ye may bear much fruit, and ye shall become my disciples. 9According as the Father did love me, I also loved you, remain in my love;
10if my commandments ye may keep, ye shall remain in my love, according as I the commands of my Father have kept, and do remain in His love;
11these things I have spoken to you, that my joy in you may remain, and your joy may be full.



Rev.21:15(K.J.V.) And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel



1Tim.2:5(D.R.B.) For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

the man Christ Jesus.


Peace.

I am glad that you have said 'THE MAN ' Jesus Christ, and not the god Jesus christ.

Acts 17:30-31New International Version (NIV) 30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of the MAN he has CHOSEN . He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from the dead.”

Do I believe that our God, ‘THE SON OF MAN’ the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, came in the flesh, and the answer is ‘YES.’He descended upon the man Jesus as he came up out of the baptismal waters of the Jordan, and filled him with his spirit, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; “You are my son, (My chosen successor) ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee.”

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Do you believe the words of Peter?

KJV, Acts 3:19-20; " Catholic Study Edition , GNB: “Repent then and turn to God (Not Jesus) so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you”

The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "WHO I AM/JHWH".

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus, which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

Do you believe in the supremacy of scripture?

Notaclue wrote........Jn.15:1(Y.L.T.)* ‘I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman;

2every branch in me not bearing fruit, He doth take it away, and every one bearing fruit, He doth cleanse by pruning it, that it may bear more fruit;

3already ye are clean, because of the word that I have spoken to you;

4remain in me, and I in you, as the branch is not able to bear fruit of itself, if it may not remain in the vine, so neither ye, if ye may not remain in me.

5‘I am the vine, ye the branches; he who is remaining in me, and I in him, this one doth bear much fruit, because apart from me ye are not able to do anything;

6if any one may not remain in me, he was cast forth without as the branch, and was withered, and they gather them, and cast to fire, and they are burned;


7if ye may remain in me, and my sayings in you may remain, whatever ye may wish ye shall ask, and it shall be done to you.

8‘In this was my Father glorified, that ye may bear much fruit, and ye shall become my disciples. 9According as the Father did love me, I also loved you, remain in my love;

10if my commandments ye may keep, ye shall remain in my love, according as I the commands of my Father have kept, and do remain in His love;

11these things I have spoken to you, that my joy in you may remain, and your joy may be full.


S-word..... and whose words were those? Were they the words of the man Jesus who spoke not one word on his own authority, or were they the words of the Lord that he commanded his obedient servant to speak in his name?

Notaclue, what a name, it suits you to the ground.
 

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The Church is Israel !

Just as Christ is the Saviour unto Israel, He is to the Church, the same ones. Acts 13:23

23 [FONT=&quot]Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

You see God has promised Salvation through Jesus to One specific People, Israel ! Cp Isa 45:17

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17 [FONT=&quot]But Israel shall be saved in the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lord[/FONT][FONT=&quot] with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Again the promise of Salvation in the Lord Jesus is to Israel !

Now Jesus is also to be the Saviour of the Body Eph 5:23

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23 [FONT=&quot]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

The Body here is Israel, the Church ! The word body means:

[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]is used of a (large or small) number of men closely united into one society, or family as it were; a social, ethical, mystical body[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]See how that can apply to Israel ? And to the Church of Christ ?[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]Salvation is promised only to one society, Israel the Church / Body of Christ.

Now heres where its going to be clearer that Israel is the Church, the Body of Christ. Another term that defines Israel and the Church is the seed of Abraham

2 Chron 20:7

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people [/FONT]Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?

See Israel and the seed of Israel are interchangeable !

Again:

Isa 41:8

[FONT=&quot]But thou,[/FONT]Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

Now with that said, the Church which belongs to Christ, believers are the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:29

29 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]And if ye be[belong to] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed[Israel], and heirs according to the promise.

Now the Church belongs to Christ as stated in 1 Cor 3:22-23

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]23And ye are[belong to] Christ's; and Christ is God's.

If the Church belongs to Christ, and that makes them Abrahams Seed Gal 3:29 and the Seed of Abraham is Israel 2 Chron 20:7; Isa 41:8 then the Church of Christ is Israel, it cant even be denied or debated without ignoring the word of God ![/FONT]
 

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I am glad that you have said 'THE MAN ' Jesus Christ, and not the god Jesus christ.

Acts 17:30-31New International Version (NIV) 30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of the MAN he has CHOSEN . He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from the dead.”

Do I believe that our God, ‘THE SON OF MAN’ the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, came in the flesh, and the answer is ‘YES.’He descended upon the man Jesus as he came up out of the baptismal waters of the Jordan, and filled him with his spirit, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; “You are my son, (My chosen successor) ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee.”

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Do you believe the words of Peter?

KJV, Acts 3:19-20; " Catholic Study Edition , GNB: “Repent then and turn to God (Not Jesus) so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you”

The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "WHO I AM/JHWH".

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus, which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"

If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

Do you believe in the supremacy of scripture?

Notaclue wrote........Jn.15:1(Y.L.T.)* ‘I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman;

2every branch in me not bearing fruit, He doth take it away, and every one bearing fruit, He doth cleanse by pruning it, that it may bear more fruit;

3already ye are clean, because of the word that I have spoken to you;

4remain in me, and I in you, as the branch is not able to bear fruit of itself, if it may not remain in the vine, so neither ye, if ye may not remain in me.

5‘I am the vine, ye the branches; he who is remaining in me, and I in him, this one doth bear much fruit, because apart from me ye are not able to do anything;

6if any one may not remain in me, he was cast forth without as the branch, and was withered, and they gather them, and cast to fire, and they are burned;


7if ye may remain in me, and my sayings in you may remain, whatever ye may wish ye shall ask, and it shall be done to you.

8‘In this was my Father glorified, that ye may bear much fruit, and ye shall become my disciples. 9According as the Father did love me, I also loved you, remain in my love;

10if my commandments ye may keep, ye shall remain in my love, according as I the commands of my Father have kept, and do remain in His love;

11these things I have spoken to you, that my joy in you may remain, and your joy may be full.


S-word..... and whose words were those? Were they the words of the man Jesus who spoke not one word on his own authority, or were they the words of the Lord that he commanded his obedient servant to speak in his name?

Notaclue, what a name, it suits you to the ground.

Jesus is God come in the flesh as a Man.

How do you think the spirit of a mere man can live in thousands and thousands of people?

The saved have the Spirit of Jesus himself living in them.

Only the Spirit of God Himself can do that.
 

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John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

Read that scripture.

Jesus is showing us that the Father and Jesus himself are one and the same.
 

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John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

Read that scripture.

Jesus is showing us that the Father and Jesus himself are one and the same.

Post 825, how about us discussing that ?
 

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Okay, so explain to me what you agree with.

The first book in the Bible tells us who and what Israel is. See Genesis 32:28.

Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome.”

Did you see that? The one who struggles with God and with men and overcomes…

And Jesus in the last book of the Bible confirms this message. See these scriptures in Revelation. Read what Jesus says about overcoming.

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

Revelation 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.

And there is only one way a person can overcome this world, and that is through Jesus Christ our Savior.

1 John 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

Therefore, who and what is Israel---Israel is people who overcome by faith in Jesus Christ.

Just as Jacob is called Israel by overcoming, we too are Israel by overcoming by faith in Jesus.
 

beloved57

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The first book in the Bible tells us who and what Israel is. See Genesis 32:28.

Genesis 32:28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome.”

Did you see that? The one who struggles with God and with men and overcomes…

And Jesus in the last book of the Bible confirms this message. See these scriptures in Revelation. Read what Jesus says about overcoming.

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

Revelation 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.

And there is only one way a person can overcome this world, and that is through Jesus Christ our Savior.

1 John 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

Therefore, who and what is Israel---Israel is people who overcome by faith in Jesus Christ.

Just as Jacob is called Israel by overcoming, we too are Israel by overcoming by faith in Jesus.
I can see that, but I asked about what you agree with about the points I made.

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The Church is Israel !

Just as Christ is the Saviour unto Israel, He is to the Church, the same ones. Acts 13:23

23 [FONT="]Of this man's seed hath [B]God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

[/B]You see God has promised Salvation through Jesus to One specific People, Israel ! Cp Isa 45:17

[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B]17 [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT="]But Israel shall be saved in the [/FONT]
[FONT="]Lord[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000][FONT="] with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Again the promise of Salvation in the Lord Jesus is to Israel !

Now Jesus is also to be the Saviour of the Body Eph 5:23

[/FONT]
23 [FONT="]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as [B]Christ is the head of the church[/B]: [B]and he is the saviour of the body.[/B]

The Body here is Israel, the Church ! The word body means:

[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica][COLOR=#000000]is used of a (large or small) number of men closely united into one society, or family as it were; a social, ethical, mystical body[/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica][COLOR=#000000]See how that can apply to Israel ? And to the Church of Christ ?[/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica][COLOR=#000000]Salvation is promised only to one society, Israel the Church / Body of Christ.

Now heres where its going to be clearer that Israel is the Church, the Body of Christ. Another term that defines Israel and the Church is the seed of Abraham

2 Chron 20:7

[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][FONT="]Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people [/FONT]
Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?

See Israel and the seed of Israel are interchangeable !

Again:

Isa 41:8

[FONT="]But thou,[/FONT][/COLOR][B][U]Israel[/U], art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, [U]the [/U][B][U]seed of [/U][B][U]Abraham [/U]my friend.[/B][/B][/B]

Now with that said, the Church which belongs to Christ, believers are the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:29

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B]29 [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]And if ye be[belong to] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed[Israel], and heirs according to the promise.

Now the Church belongs to Christ as stated in 1 Cor 3:22-23

[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][FONT="]22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;[/FONT]

[FONT="]23And ye are[belong to] Christ's; and Christ is God's.

If the Church belongs to Christ, and that makes them Abrahams Seed Gal 3:29 and the Seed of Abraham is Israel 2 Chron 20:7; Isa 41:8 then the Church of Christ is Israel, it cant even be denied or debated without ignoring the word of God ![/FONT]



Amen! So all that Believe on Christ by the Faith given them in New Birth Gal. 5:22 bears evidence that they are His Body the Church Rev. 5:9, an Heir of Abraham, and the Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16: Children of Promise just as Isaac was Gal. 4:28.

So we can clearly see, according to the scriptures, that Salvation in Christ has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity, but Christ is a Saviour exclusively to Israel Is. 45:17 which is comprised of His Seed, a Chosen Generation, a Spiritual Nation.

Ps. 22:30-31
30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. 31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
 

beloved57

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Amen! So all that Believe on Christ by the Faith given them in New Birth Gal. 5:22 bears evidence that they are His Body the Church Rev. 5:9, an Heir of Abraham, and the Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16: Children of Promise just as Isaac was Gal. 4:28.

So we can clearly see, according to the scriptures, that Salvation in Christ has absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity, but Christ is a Saviour exclusively to Israel Is. 45:17 which is comprised of His Seed, a Chosen Generation, a Spiritual Nation.

Ps. 22:30-31
30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. 31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Praise the Lord for your seasoned words, seasoned with grace!

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Praise the Lord for your seasoned words, seasoned with grace!

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TY! Praising the Lord indeed Brother!

Also for grace that was given exclusively to His Spiritual People Israel, His Body the Church, before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9. And being chosen in union with Christ their Head Eph. 1:4; Col. 1:18-19, they all partake of the fulness of His Grace John 1:14-17, and so each Elect Member of His Body shall have this Grace Experience out of His Fulness communicated to them in New Birth. It bears evidence that they are His People that were Promised Salvation Mat. 1:21; Is. 45:17.
 
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