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It is not "liberal" to call a spade a spade or in this case - rape. Just because a couple are married does not equate to a husband being entitled to sex as he sees fit and forcing himself on his unwilling spouse. There's no justification for that and good luck finding it Biblically as Clete...

Try explaining that to Derf then because there's no disagreement between us (for once) on that score so read things properly yourself. Oh, and get some new material anyway...

Well, it's hardly gutter language but it's often abused by trolls and the like.

Funny, I seem to recall you saying that if you were a mod on here then you'd ban all sorts of people from posting, from Catholics to atheists etc. Completely at odds with the founder of the forum and the ethos laid out. Conservative bias for sure but welcome to all. What was that about hypocrisy...

He would rightfully be charged with rape because that's what he'd be guilty of. No further explanation necessary and those who try to shroud it in other terminology such as "something else" or make excuses for it have no justification for it. It generally isn't worth your time trying to explain...

It isn't and yeah, it is. Go waffle on about "something else".

Good, let her show herself up some more.

No, fact. It's rape, pure and simple. That you can't define what this "something else" of yours actually consists of reflects solely on you.

Would be ironic...

Why? Cos some nutcases like MTG are allowed back on? She didn't exactly get much support from her 'fellow republicans' when she was booted from the platform did she? Heck, let her back on and Trump for that matter. They did their own causes more harm than good while tweeting away like nutters...

Ironic that he appeared on an episode of 'The Big Bang Theory' volunteering at a soup kitchen and saying how good it was to help the homeless...

Nope. Got anything as to how rape in a marriage is "something else" yet?

Well, your not "changing your mind" would come as a surprise to absolutely nobody I'm reckoning but some others actually did, Mr Deets for one.

How so? Have I made some juvenile quips about you or personal jibes? If so, point them out and if founded then I'll apologize and retract them. Sound fair to you? Already got a ban for calling you a dingbat so can't retract that one.

Gotta say, I can't agree with you on this. Russia is led by a completely despotic government and with a tyrant at the helm for sure and I hope it's overthrown in short order and replaced with a far less hard line authority. I'd have no desire to see the country blasted off the map however as...

How so, by agreeing with Clete?

Oh, there's plenty if you scroll back but if you're mired in juvenile presumption then there's your stumbling block. Maybe you want to make some more asinine quips about me instead?

Nope. How many failed attempts at a slam dunk are you trying to aim for?

That's all very Sunday service church meeting an' all but nothing actually addressing my post. Ho hum.

Why thank you Derf! But no, you haven't. You also have yet to acknowledge your own erroneous presumptive opinions regarding myself but no matter, kinda expect it from certain quarters and to be fair, not immune from doing it myself on occasion either but where it comes to this topic: There...