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I'll let someone else deal with those idiotic images. Try thinking for once, PJ. http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/html-3/apollo11mission.htm

No, Dave, it's not. And allow me to correct myself: empirical evidence, not data.

Woodshed thread: http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?128917-Infraction-for-patrick-jane-Posting-Spam Note: the above link is for subscribers only.

See the FE Part 2 thread, where I tagged Sherman.

Empirical data is better proof than "my eyes tell me that the horizon is eye level." Use a camera.

For this experiment, you do. Use a camera.

Do this:

Using a cartoon to prove your point doesn't work, Dave. I can prove to you, or rather, you can show yourself, that the horizon is not at eye level. Set up your camera, make sure the camera and the pivot point of whatever stand you use is completely level. Now, look through your camera lens and...

All animals look downward at the ground. Man is the only creature to naturally look above the horizon.

No, Dave, it's not at eye level. It's the distance from your feet to your eyes, plus however high up you are, below you.

Try http://kgov.com/360. Wait, do you mean that the earth's spin is along the same plane as it's orbit around the sun?

I apologise, I'm going after this the wrong way, here. Alright, try this instead. Grab a lamp, place it about a foot to a foot and a half away from one wall, turn it on, and (with the shade off) hold your finger a few inches away from it, where the shadow of your finger is barely visible. The...

Yes, ratio... Of the diameters of the sun, the moon and the earth! Please pay attention!

Uh, 1M1S, yes it does. Take a chandelier, turn it on, put your fist next to it, and tell me how big the shadow of your fist is, and how focused is the shadow. (It should be a few times the size of your hand, but not very focused.) Then, with the light still on, move your hand away from the...

Because the moon isn't close, and the sun is even farther and much, much bigger than you're even attempting to comprehend. That's how. The moon is 238,900 miles away (on average) from the earth, and is 2,159 miles in diameter and the sun is 92,960,000 miles away (on average), and 864,576 miles...

PJ, Please show how none of the objects in your second image work on a round earth, instead of making a "just so" argument. And stop spamming the same images over and over again. Sherman

Dave already said he wasn't going to respond to them because "it's not the direction be wants to go with the thread," or something along those lines, or was it that he didn't like how the guy in those videos spoke...

False dichotomy, a fallacy. I am a globe earther, yet I believe in special creation, not flat earth, and that the Bible speaks of a globe, not a disc or plane, which is not shown on that image. That image is extremely dishonest. Argument from silence, a fallacy. Arguing that since there are...

Do you seriously not know what a compass is? Did you never take geometry class in high school...

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