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  1. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    CORRECT. There are tons of Catholics who don't believe in the Real Presence, like @annabenedetti here. The fact of the matter is that the earliest Church uniformly believed in the Real Presence, and that Calvinist Protestants taught against it. As for Lutherans and 'high church' Anglicans...
  2. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Then if Matthew 18:20 is interpreted that way, then it meant Mass all along (all through history), and Mass is where 'breaking bread' occurred, Communion, where Christ when instituting the Eucharist said His words "this is My body . . ." You're making my point for me. I didn't suggest Matthew...
  3. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    No, you're just Catholic; you're just not 'in full communion,' which is basically short hand for formal 'worthiness' (cf. 1st Corinthians 11:27 &29) to receive Holy Communion. There's nothing stopping you from attending Mass though.
  4. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    " For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." That means Mass. Just like 'breaking bread' means Mass. Confer Hebrews 10:25 " the assembling of ourselves together" Because you examined yourself and your conduct convinces you; no moral or...
  5. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    EENS true doctrine: If Jesus saved you you're Catholic (whether you're outwardly Catholic or not)
  6. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I believe the world was made in six days flat.
  7. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Sure. I was asked this a long time ago, and my answer's the same, even though I myself wasn't yet theologically Catholic, let alone a convert, way back then. We are spiritually and mystically one body, but there is great division and factions on the earth right now between us. But it needn't...
  8. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    He is our High Priest forever, agreed?
  9. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Rejection of the Real Presence didn't have any credibility as an idea until the Reformation. That's almost 1500 years of zero disputation, so what's wrong with calling it the Protestant view, alluding to the Protestant Reformation, which is when Christians first started to entertain this...
  10. Idolater

    Guns!

    My phone has a feature where when I dial 911 the GPS automatically turns on so they can find me if I need help.
  11. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    His shed blood being payment for sin requires a liturgical framework in order to be valid, and not just some random death that was after the fact proclaimed to be fulfillment of prophecy. This framework is the New Covenant, not the Old, which of course didn't have any part of it concerned with...
  12. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    And if the Real Presence is true, then logically you're the sad ones. Agreed?
  13. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I agree with @brewmama's argument. It's like how I agree with Catholicism's ethics. I don't make the argument to support my ethics, I just say I'm Catholic. I have Catholic ethics.
  14. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    These words have no meaning.
  15. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I indicated that. Meaning, there's no such thing as valid liturgy for believers in Christ. Oh. The Church is riven. It can't get any more divided!
  16. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    Him who?
  17. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    I can't believe I have to thank someone for reading what this thread's about before posting in it, but here we are: Thank you. The only one that cannot be concisely explained is the 'call no man father' bit. There is an answer, but it isn't brief. All the other charges about how Catholicism...
  18. Idolater

    Protestantism was falsified here on TOL

    No they don't. I used to be a Protestant before I reasoned about Scripture at a high enough level to see how plain the liturgical argument for Orthodoxy and Catholicism is, it's a flat scriptural argument, and there isn't a credible alternative to the very literal interpretation of the Bible in...
  19. Idolater

    This is Murica

    Difference being, gun-toting isn't one day going to be replaced by driverless electric tractors churned out by Tesla.
  20. Idolater

    Ethics and morals

    You can say that he is a moral man, but does his putative ethics match your ethics? Ethics is a claim to be right and not only a personal choice made privately. Living a particular way is exclusionary to all the other lifestyle choices. All I'm willing to say is that pursuing weekly Mass and...
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