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Can a man, presented with the gospel of the grace of God, repent? Your conclusion doesn't follow from this premise. It's amazing how you have to rip a verse out of it's context to have only a small portion of it say what you want it to say, while the verse as a whole says THE EXACT OPPOSITE...

There's only one. It's literally called the nation of Israel. Israel is the nation. The Body of Christ is the organism. They are not the same. WRONG. There is no such thing as "the Israel that is not a nation," because Israel, BY DEFINITION is a nation. The very fact that he...

Not according to Calvinism, at least, not according to the actual definition of what a will is. God's Sovereignty does not mean "absolute control." It means He has authority over His creation. It doesn't mean He controls everything under Him. Except when it isn't... And yet, men still...

By the way, this is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Just because thing B comes AFTER thing A doesn't necessitate that A caused B. Someone choosing to turn to Christ after being presented with the Gospel, whom Christ then saves, DOES NOT necessitate that that turning to Christ causes...

This is literally the exact opposite of what he just said, @beloved57. Don't be a troll. No. Man's will being free cannot set him free from sin. Only Christ. You're doing EXACTLY what I just said you were going to do.

@Clete Didn't John Calvin himself have something to say about man's wills not being free? I thought there was at least one or two quotes from him where he denies the freedom of men's wills...

So what? He's right. You're wrong. Which has nothing to do with whether man has a will or not. No, neither he nor I believe that. So do we! You're conflating TWO DIFFERENT TYPES of freedom!

This right here is the ENTIRE CRUX OF THE MATTER that @beloved57 will continue to ignore, choosing (see what I did there?) instead to conflate having a free will (again, a redundant term, because wills are by definition free) with being free from sin.

Yes. There's a huge difference between an organism and a nation. Guess which one Israel is. Nope. That's NOT how that works. Believers in the Body of Christ are a NEW CREATURE. We are not/do not become part of a nation called "Israel."

Meaningless. Men are free to choose between good and evil. The verse doesn't say what you just said. Men are not sinners at conception, for no baby in the womb has ever sinned. Those who SIN are servants of sin. Babies are innocent. Begging the question. Only those who sin. So? Does...

Man has a will. Wills are, by definition, free. Not according to your position, which denies the very definition of the term, "will." Yes. But your position assumes men don't. Man cannot be responsible or accountable if he cannot choose otherwise than what God predetermined he would...

So what? Saying it doesn't make it so.

"Free will" is a redundant term. If it's not free, it's not a will. A will is simply "the ability to choose."

It's an apparent problem with your position. You need to provide more about your position that resolves the apparent problem. Hence my questions. Still missing the point of contention, and now you're just repeating yourself (not that you weren't before...). Except that didn't happen for many...

You're missing my point of contention. That's not answering my question. I agree the natural man needs to change his mind, to repent. But my question is about HOW his mind gets changed, not WHETHER it needs to be changed. Why can't the gospel enable a natural man to change his own mind? Why...

Yes, hence the question I asked. You've said that already. This does nothing to answer my questions. Here they are again: [Why must repentance be given to a man? It sounds like you're begging the question that man cannot respond to the gospel of his own will.] [Why do you think that the...

Why must it be given to him? Sounds like you're begging the question that man cannot respond to the gospel of his own will. Why do you think that the gospel shared cannot enable a natural man to change his mind?

Well, if it's anything like when Bob or Dr. Leighton Flowers debated him, then yeah, probably

Even sinners can be intelligent.

It also makes a prediction about how much antimatter there should be in the universe. One which, on its own, falsifies the theory. There's literally an entire universe worth of missing antimatter. https://kgov.com/antimatter This assumes that the speed of light is the same in both...