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I recall you saying something charmless along the lines of it wouldn't be satisfying to have sex with a motionless lump of flesh but you were hardly denouncing forced sex and you still seemed to think it was your right regardless. You changed your tune on that?

Well, sure don't need to navigate around much to recognize that a husband or anyone else forcing sex onto another is abhorrent. Go preach to yourself.

They have an absolute woeful ignorance of healthy relationship dynamics to put it mildly... Setting aside the abhorrent force/rape aspect for a moment, who, if they truly loved their spouse, would be interested in having sex with them if they were unwilling anyway? This isn't just sex, it's a...

Thanks for the sermon. Funny how I didn't need one or any aid in being able to recognize how unloving it is to force sex on a partner but hey, thanks anyway!

So, you're telling me how it's "loving" to force your wife into sex? Um, no, you aren't. The Bible itself gives the most eloquent description of love there is. What you advocate is anything but.

Well, he's hardly gonna please his wife by forcing himself on her so that's a no go. If he actually cared for her, not only would he not do so, he'd be repulsed by the notion also. Not going well for the "no rape in marriage crowd" from scripture itself.

Frankly, some of the ilk who deny that women can be raped in a marriage would probably deny them the vote as well. Truly pathetic.

Wow, the lengths you go to to try and "justify" your position, whereby a husband can and even "rightfully" force sex upon his wife and it's somehow not rape. How is that loving or cherishing exactly?

Do you ever vet your sources before just buying into them at face value?

Frankly, anyone who claims to love and cherish their spouse while simultaneously claiming that it's okay to force sex on them have no idea what loving and cherishing actually encapsulate. You simply wouldn't want to do that to them.

I'll let Skeeter answer this for himself if he chooses to.

There's no "occasion for forcing" regardless, not if you truly loved and cherished your spouse. That in itself answers your risible latter.

It's beyond pathetic really and again reason to hope that those who advocate it remain terminally single. It would repel any reasonable man to even entertain forcing sex on his wife,

To be fair, I think he was referring to Skeeter although I don't get the utilitarian stuff anyway...

Now apply that to sex. It's permissible when both parties agree to it, pretty straightforward yeah? Otherwise, what does it say about you or anyone else who would entertain forcing an unwilling spouse into intercourse? How is that even remotely appealing if you love and cherish her? Cos it...

Sad thing is, some of these nutballs don't even think there's such a thing as rape in a marriage anyway. If a husband wants sex and his wife doesn't then eh, if he carries on regardless then no foul. It's his right.

Well, anyone who espouses that there's no such thing as marital rape is clearly clueless or..."something else"... I wouldn't go so far as to say women should always be wary of marriage though, more wary as to who they might entertain being married to...

The far right and extreme fringes, not conservatives.

For sure.

How so? Trump was warned enough times before being booted and MTG is a complete wingnut etc. Don't act like a crank and you won't get banned, pretty easy.