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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This was just released yesterday! I suppose it is just the latest in the ongoing spherical earth conspiracy.... This compressed view of the entire sky visible from Hawaii by the Pan-STARRS1 Observatory is the result of half a million exposures, each about 45 seconds in length, taken over a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Density is a function of mass. The more mass in a given volume, the denser it is and therefore the more it "bends the four-dimensional space-time continuum".
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You can get even the cheapest telescope made and see round planets with moons orbiting some of them with your own eyes, Dave! You don't need YouTube or even an internet connection. It's direct inside your very own eye ball visual PROOF that planets not only exist but that they are not flat!
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    In actual fact, you wouldn't. On a flat Earth, the center of gravity would get further and further behind you and you'd eventually feel as though your were going nearly straight vertical and would fall backward toward the center. Check out this video of an excellent animation showing what this...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Hey! An actual argument! It doesn't mean the Earth isn't moving, it means the plane and atmosphere its flying through are moving along with the Earth. It's the same effect that allows someone to juggle on a moving train. Your argument is the equivalent of the juggler stating the his ability to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Of course, it allows for video, I've posted one on this very thread. But what I have not done is let the video do the work for me. I post actual arguments that people can respond to directly without having to watch some video. I am not going to watch a video, transcribe one or more of its...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Floatation is a function of GRAVITY! The reason more dense things sink is because gravity is pulling on them more than it is pulling on the less dense things. Smoke only rises because it is warmer (and therefore less dense) than the air surrounding it. When that condition no longer exists it...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, which it does. The bible is not science text-book, Daniel. We all say that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We all say this in spite of knowing that the sun isn't really what's doing the moving and yet we all understand what is being said and no one thinks that we are...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. There are whole fields of science with multiple thousands of scientists that all depend, to one degree or another, on the fact that gravity works. Newton's law of gravity, in addition to being very well known (as in not a secret or written in some sort of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Make the argument, Dave. Make some sort of argument. This is a debate forum, not a "Hey! Go check out this video that makes an argument." forum. You don't have to recreate the whole video in text format. Just pick something and make the argument. Poe's Law
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Just what is it that is pushing everything down to the Earth, according to Eric? What does he say causes buoyancy if not gravity?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I never suggested it was the only stupidity that flat earthers come up with. I said it was my favoite. Poe's Law
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    They are constantly "descending". It's no anomaly at all. The altimeter is based on the distance in elevation from sea level which will, with a constant reading, cause the plane to continuously adjust for the curvature of the earth. It's the distances the planes fly that is the proof of the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    There is more than one flat earth website that puts forward this 1g acceleration "solution" to the gravity problem. Look up "gravity problem flat earth" on google. One of the top results will be a flat earth wiki article and there are several others, including the video I have at the bottom of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My favorite flat earther rebuttal to the center of gravity problem is their contention that the earth (and the sun and the moon and the whole rest of the solar system, etc) is simply accelerating at 1g in a direction perfectly perpendicular to the surface of the flat Earth. The problem (well...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This thread is a cool example of Poe's Law! I love it! There are many evidences that the earth is in fact round - spherical in fact. On a flat Earth, the constellations seen from North America would be the same ones seen from South America. They are not the same. Therefore the Earth is not...
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    ECT Let's Define Terms

    Everyone who even claims to be a Christian will tell you that God is just and kind and righteous and loving. But I'd venture to say that most of them do not actually believe this. Of course, they wholeheartedly and sincerely insist that they do believe it and would perhaps even be willing to die...
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    Infallible Foreknowledge vs. Free Will

    I've posted the following syllogism a few times in recent weeks and each time I've received no response at all to it. In fact, over the years I've posted this syllogism dozens of times and if I've ever seen anyone attempt to refute it, it's been so long ago that I cannot remember it and so I...
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    A Question Preterists Can't Seem to Answer

    If the second coming happened in 70 AD, why isn't there any record of it? There were lots of believers who would have lived through the second coming of Christ but none, and I mean NONE, of the writers during the late first and early second centuries mention it. In fact, not only do they not...
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