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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The closer one is to the equator and the closer the date is to an equinox, the more vertical the Sunrise/Sunset will be. BUT ONLY EXACTLY ON THE EQUATOR AND EXACTLY ON THE EQUINOX WILL IT BE EXACTLY VERTICAL! And over exposed sources of light look fatter than those that aren't over exposed...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Notice also how it sets from right to left rather than left to right.
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Their response to this is to deny the existence of gravity and to suppose that what we feel as gravity is caused by the disc of the Earth moving through space. The problem with that is, of course, that to create one g of force, one has to be accelerating at 9.8 meters per second per second...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Incidentally, proof that light from the Sun arrives at the Earth in virtually parallel lines happened the day before yesterday (March 20th 2018). Most of you may not have noticed but on that day the Sun rose directly East and set directly West of your location. It makes NO DIFFERENCE where...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I agree. That's probably why I keep coming back to it. It's like I'm addicted to it or something. It is a totally facinating subject because it isn't readily obvious to the naked eye that the Earth is round and it's fun to explore what were rather astounding feats of intellect on the part of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There is nothing more to debate. Anyone who still thinks the world is flat is either stupid or is lying. These asinine videos you guys are presenting aren't worth another second of response. They've all be refuted over and over again and none of it moves you guys an inch. So which is it? Are you...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Learn About the Sun and Space-Weather Ages 13+ Easy to understand. Less than 1 Hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZ6HSPkf8U&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcJj_9clLz7Bggso7qg2PDj
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Bull! I don't believe you. Take a camera out and take one photo every 4 hours. It'll take you a total of ten minutes if you DON'T know how to use your camera. You're lying. No one with a working autonomic system is this stupid. I haven't the faintest idea what your motive for this charade is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not quite. I agree that the Big Bang Theory is ridiculous but there is at least some modicum of reason that can be found to support it. In other words, it is not unreasonable, when you have good reason to think that the universe is expanding, to run the clock backward and suppose that it all...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That's annoying. It worked last night.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Interestingly, it is because your brain is so used to dealing with perspective (the real sort of perspective, not this fantasy land crap the flat-earthers are talking about) that causes the Sun and Moon to seem bigger when close to the horizon when they actually are just exactly the same size...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Again, there is just no possible way that you are this stupid. You can prove this wrong in one single day - one day, David! Let me guess, you're too busy to go outside the two or three times for five minutes each that it would take for anyone with an IQ above 79 to prove this mindlessness to be...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You see, Dave, here's the thing. I just do not believe you. You cannot be this stupid! You just flat out cannot be this stupid! What the hell are you actually doing here? Do you have some sort of dementia? Did you fall down and hit your head or have some sort of car accident? That video isn't...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are a lunatic. Liar. You said it, I challanged it, you defended it, I proved you wrong THEN you started talking about how you never said it. THE THREAD IS ALL STILL HERE FOR EVERYONE TO READ MORON! I haven't backtracked at all, freak. You said God created math, I challenged it, you...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Why do people always do this? When someone has demonstrated that you were wrong, why try to pretend that you said something other than what is still right there for all of us to read? You said, "... Elohim created math and used it all over the place throughout His creation." to which I...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is all speculation - at best. It is certainly (admittedly) extra-biblical. Further, while it is true that the Hebrews used their alphabet as numbers, this is not at all the same thing as doing mathematics. The Hebrews had no concept at all of the zero in the mathematical sense and as such...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Mathematics is a formal form of language that is used to communicate information about (i.e. to describe) God's creation. God definitely did not create mathematics any more than He created any other form of sound reasoning. Math is an abstraction, not a thing. The history of mathematics is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Well, of course that is the exact point. What is observed cannot occur in a flat Earth. You might be able to move the Sun across a flat Earth and make it look right for people in a particular location but then it would look wildly, measurably, noticeably different to others. As I said, the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You know there's a way for you to directly measure the curvature of the Earth, if you have the time to put into doing it. I've mentioned it before but perhaps when you find yourself with a lot of free time, we can discuss it and figure out the details on how to pull it off.
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