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  1. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Because they aren't about the environment, they're about politics. It is about power - pure and simple. It is about telling you how to live your life and what you can and cannot do with your private property. The end result of what environmentalists want is jack-booted authoritarianism, whether...
  2. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    In fact, you are - the crazy one. I cannot believe - I mean I literally cannot believe you wrote that post. Now math doesn't work and the mathematical equations that tell you how circles work somehow also works on a flat surfaces!? Do you know what a tangent is, Patrick? (Serious question...
  3. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Patrick, If I measured the curvature of the Earth myself, with my own equipment, and the measurement came within a reasonable margin of error of that which would be expected if the Earth is a sphere 24,901 miles in circumstance, would that convince you that the Earth is not flat?
  4. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    What a brilliant article! Thank you for posting it.
  5. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    "Fabricated image." - Making me part of the conspiracy. That would be hysterical.
  6. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    :up: Test run.... http://ge.tt/9FhV9ap2 Incidentally, I'd still love to know just what flat-earthers think that's a picture of!
  7. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That's what I did in that last post only with OneDrive.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I keep running up against a file size limitation on these photos of my own. I was just hoping that I could find a way to store them without having to have multiple copies of the same image. It's easy enough to convert them into smaller files though.
  9. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The continents do NOT contantly change size and shape. What changes is the orbital distance of the satellite and how wide the field of view of the camera. A point that has already been repeatedly explained perhaps a dozen times during this discussion. Don't worry about it though! No need to be...
  10. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is not only proof that the flat earth image was a fake but it is very strong evidence, if not outright proof, that the Earth is NOT flat. The original must have shown the Earth's curvature. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to modify the image.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not to mention the fact that anyone with virtually any camera with nearly any wide angle lens on it can make a curved horizon look flat and vise versa. It just depends on which lens and at what angle. In other words, it's a false dichotomy. Neither are lying, they simply use different cameras...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you want, just skip most of this post and read everything below the dashed line... What? The surface of a body of water 1/4 of a mile in length would be less than half an inch, which is far less than you can detect with the naked eye and any distance shorter than that gets really hard to...
  13. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Don't lie to me, David. You quoted those passages in defense of a flat earth. No one here is so stupid as to have not gotten the point. I've never said anything like that. I simply was testing how married you are to this idiotic idea that the Bible teaches that the Earth is flat and that stars...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Good! Because I'm quite likely to prove the Earth to be round with my own equipment. The reason I asked was to gauge how married you were to the idea that the bible teaches the Earth to be flat (which it doesn't at all - by the way). If the passages of scripture taught what you implied, your...
  15. Clete

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Quite so! That's what I get for being in a hurry! :doh:
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Good point! Except that I'm asking the question for a specific reason. Yeah, yeah. yeah. You wouldn't know anything about Christ if not for the bible. If the bible is falsified, Christ goes out the window. Saying it doesn't make it so, David. So what if it could be seen, would you drop the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, If I prove that the Earth is not flat, will you drop Christianity on the basis that the bible has been falsified? That is a serious question. I'd appreciate a straight answer. Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The only response to this question that I've gotten amounted to basically, "If you're Satan you lie. That's what you do." I think it was from Dave. I don't know who else it would have been. Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You have got to be kidding me. Do not ever talk to me about proving anything - ever. If I do it, it won't be for my benefit, it'll be for yours. Flat earthism has exactly nothing to do with the bible. It's a stupid delusion that I'm pulling out every stop attempting to wake you from, including...
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