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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    None of which comport with reality! It's a very simple experiment to do, Dave. It takes a little time but it isn't hard to do. An even easier thing to do is to go outside on any clear morning for the next several days and weeks. If you go outside before Sunrise, you can see Saturn, Mars and...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    David, you don't need him to prove it. You can prove it yourself in a single day with any camera that will take even a thirty second long exposure, which is pretty much any digital camera in existence. The celestial pole does not move (actually it does but very slightly over hundreds of years -...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Once again, you can stop with the IDIOTIC photographic arguments. It convinces no one other than those who haven't the faintest idea how cameras work. With the right wide angle lens you can make the same horizon look convex, concave or flat all from the exact same location. It's simply a matter...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Want to know why I get angry when you fools associate the flat-earth stupidity with Christianity? This is why... https://youtu.be/QhibN89WJtI WARNING! This video contains cussing and insults. He repeatedly calls the maker of the video he's responding to by the name "Cletus", which happens to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Please explain. What research are you doing, specifically? Each video has a theme. The first was basically about the map issue, another has to do with the night sky, etc. Have you watched any of the others? There is no need to respond to every point he makes individually. Besides, as I've said...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Can I take this first post of yours to mean that all of the dozens of arguments that were presented in the original thread were all ignored? I'm not at all interested in starting completely over from scratch just doing a repeat of the first thread. This new thread only exists because we were...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So happy to see a new thread started! I've been super busy the last few days but will be back to posting as soon as time allows. Clete
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I think all of this can be basically responded to by simply pointing out that gravity pulls on the center of mass of any object, regardless of how many pieces there are or the relative masses of those pieces or how rigidly they are held together (so long as they are indeed held together). And...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Right Divider already said this but just for good measure... I understand what you're getting at but it just isn't correct, or at least you aren't saying it right. East and West are defined in a very specific way and going straight east or west, by definition, means that you are not getting...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If you go straight west from Chicago, you won't ever get even one inch closer to the equator than when you started the trip, (never mind Antarctica). And speaking of the equator, isn't that a line that goes all the way around the world without hitting Patrick's "ice wall"?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Saying it doesn't make it so, Patrick. There are literally thousands of things that circumnavigate the globe every couple of hours. Thousands! All day. Everyday. There have been hundreds of people travel all the way around the world over the last couple of centuries. Different people in...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Interesting question. It also pulls each piece of the satellite individually. The "pieces" aren't as rigidly held together but they do still act as a whole. In fact, the ocean is just one piece of the Earth. The ground is pulled on by the Moon just as the ocean is. The reason you notice it...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Patrick really ought not be permitted to deluge the thread in this manner. I can't even find one of the images that I want to respond to. He makes basically one sentence arguments but takes up 1000 times the bandwidth and almost entirely to no avail. He clearly isn't even expecting anyone to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    There is no such thing as "true magnetic north". That would be a contradiction in terms. North magnetic poles are attracted to south magnetic poles. The Earth is a giant magnet. It's SOUTH magnetic pole is near the geographic north pole. That's why the north poles of magnets in compasses...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Magnetic compasses do not "point" anywhere. We are the ones who put the pointers on the magnets. The magnets just do what they do. Magnets have no idea where the magnetic north pole is and they don't care because they have no mind. They are inanimate objects that do what physics requires them to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Patrick, Do these little capsules of stupidity actually hold water with you or are you just posting them for fun or what? That one about being able to see Mercury and Venus literally made me laugh out loud! Especially since it's refutation was posted directly below it! Did you even notice that...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Notice how flat-earthers won't respond to an argument. It should tell you something. All they do it pile on more nonsense hoping that the arguments you've made against them will be forgotten.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You can stop with the photos and videos of the curvature of the Earth. The only people it convinces are people who are completely ignorant of how cameras work and the effects that different lenses have on the image. With the same camera and lens I can make a flat horizon look convex or concave...
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