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  1. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    What's your point.
  2. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    I don't see how, but I welcome your argument. Indeterminacy is either elemental to the universe or it is not, but regardless, we can't tell the difference between it being elemental to the universe or a nonlocal hidden variable pulling strings. And in either case, there can be no unified...
  3. Idolater

    chrysostom

    From Wikipedia today: 'Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as "If you want peace, prepare for war"' Preparing for war, means bearing arms. We have a Constitution that reads, that the right of the people to prepare for war, shall not be infringed.
  4. Idolater

    Ethics and morals

    Is there an authoritative definition of these two terms? My lay investigation says no. There are different views of what these two concepts are and of how these two concepts interact, though every one of them does explain ethics in contrast with morals in some way. One way is that ethics is...
  5. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Heat? A lot of heat. Why, is this your area of expertise? Melting planets? Who are you, Thanos? ;)
  6. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    The universe is composed of particles. Particles are like the blurry edge between matter and energy. According to cosmologists, for every 20 parts of the universe, there is only one of them that is neither dark energy or dark matter. Additionally, the universe is composed, elementally, of...
  7. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    I'm not claiming that they're really that old! I'm only claiming that all the relevant PhDs (with a small minority of exceptions) say that all of their methods and instruments calculate that the dinosaur fossils are "millions of years" old. Do you agree or not? Not with the content. But with...
  8. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    The issue is that we're told the fate of this earth in 2nd Peter 3:10 and 12, we hear it read to us in Mass. It sounds just as fantastical as Genesis one does, but I've never heard Catholics try and say that 2nd Peter 3:10 and 12 aren't science, is all. We believe this is all going to be...
  9. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    It's not. It's specifically correcting a notion where one's ecclesiology is thought to determine his or her or neither his nor her status with regard to God. That was my point. But in the Garden there was no life-container that had to die and get boiled in order for its soil to be fertile...
  10. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Course there isn't. That was my whole point. And so, the conclusion is, that, since we know what fertile soil is, that it's made from sand and silt and clay (all rock), and from organic matter . . . which is dead stuff. But there was no dead stuff in Eden. That soil had never been alive...
  11. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Correctamundo, and I also subscribe to the other verses in 2nd Peter chapter three as well, like verses 10 and 12, we all Catholics believe in those verses, so I don't understand the position where Genesis chapter one and two are other than 2nd Peter 3:10 and 12. But, at the same time, I'm told...
  12. Idolater

    WHO WILL ENTER THE CITY OF GOD?

    Galatians 4 4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. 6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts...
  13. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    One secular (atheist) who believes as I do that the whole world is under 10000 years old? I don't know of any but I'm curious to see who you're talking about. What does that have to do with starlight coming from stars billions of lightyears away reaching us in under 10000 years? Was the...
  14. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    So in sum, there is such a thing as a valid appeal to authority. "Supra." I haven't. Which was only an example of what I was talking about, which was the valid appeal to authority. I made my point, which is why you didn't contest it. Of course. In fact I said so. I said they are wrong...
  15. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Which means what? That I have to start believing in dinosaurs? Pass. I doubt it, but if you think so set it out. Oh.
  16. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    Yes, actually. How can starlight from billions of lightyears away be seen by us on the earth if we've only been here for 10000 years or under? There hasn't been enough time. Which means that God created the universe in a mature state. Like He did Adam and Eve. And like the fertile soil of...
  17. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    I believe the flood was real. I never said that you could. Oh.
  18. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    And water is wet. That's not stopping cosmologists from doing cosmology. Anybody with a little knowledge and some fairly easy to obtain equipment can verify that starlight is billions of lightyears away.
  19. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    The fertile soil in the Garden of Eden, and dinosaur fossils, are both "dead things". That's what fertile soil is made from, and that's what it's believed or supposed that dinosaur fossils are made from too. I'm looking for the word 'fossil' in Scripture and can't find it. So far as I know...
  20. Idolater

    My Problem with Creation Science

    No. A reason why it is said that the (valid) appeal to authority is the weakest form of argument. Sure. Like, maybe not all cells have a nucleus. Maybe not all particles have mass. If the entire domain of biology or of particle physics uniformly teach otherwise, then while you can validly...
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