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  1. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I think the only thing that video proves is that guy who filmed it does NOT believe what he is pushing. You can tell because he had to set the table up so that it was ABOVE the level of the camera, thus causing the dime to sink out of sight as it moved away from the viewer. You can also tell by...
  2. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Are you sure you want to go there? We have a fairly good handle on how high clouds get to be. Most are below 20,000 ft, a fair amount below the altitude airplanes routinely fly. Some are a little higher, maybe reaching over 50,000 feet. That's about 10 or so miles. Are you saying the sun is...
  3. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Well, if it's made of almost nothing at all, then it will be easier to accelerate it at 1G-->F=ma. :) Plus, if it turns into a disk, then a lot of the mass isn't needed anymore. I keep thinking about this story: The rich man asked the mystic, "What does the world stand upon?" The mystic...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    How do we determine the mass of the moon? Isn't it by the orbit it is in, its apparent size, and the effects it has on the earth, including the tides? If the moon were just 3000 miles away, and it's apparent size were the same, then to make its gravity the same would mean a decrease in...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I think you've misunderstood my point. What you've done, admirably and (mostly) patiently, is to attempt to correct the folly of a fool, or "answer a fool according to his folly". What you are now doing, admirably, is to cease doing so, or "answer not a fool according to his folly". I don't...
  6. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You've answered a fool according to his folly. Now its time to not answer a fool according to his folly. Sent from my Z992 using TheologyOnline mobile app
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Thanks for helping to do so. So God set out the relationship He wanted Adam and Eve to have with Him. Satan, part of the creation, usurped that relationship, so Adam and Eve used knowledged gained from the creation as greater knowledge ("you shall NOT die") than the knowledge gained from God...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I hope you don't think I was advocating treating people terribly. If so, would you let me know where I suggested such, so I can correct it? If not, why do you bring it up in a discussion of what science and knowledge are? Red herring, perhaps? Which part of the bible are you suggesting we not...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm sorry to hear you say this. "Science" essentially means "knowledge". And if the bible is not a book to gain "knowledge", I can't imagine of what use it is. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. (Prov 1:7) The most important thing Scientists (knowledge seekers) can do to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, one thought. We are by nature short-sighted, meaning we think about what's happening to us right now as the most important thing going on. Thus we naturally think we are the center of the universe. As far as I can tell, nothing in God's word requires such a thought--when God made the sun...
  11. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'll let others decide who's making an idiot of himself. Distrust of NASA is certainly on the table. They use a lot of tax dollars, and not all of it comes back to us in useful product. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. NASA didn't invent the spherical earth, as your own flat...
  12. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That video is fake. You can tell because it shows a curved earth and stars.:chuckle:
  13. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Do you not even read your own links? It said he sailed 10,000 miles in "uncharted" waters before he wintered in New Zealand. He spent the winter sailing around to the various south pacific islands. He sailed south again and came back to New Zealand. And it was more than 14,000 miles from England...
  14. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I did this calculation wrong. The coastline of Antarctica would only be 70,000 miles long. Thus that would expand the width of Australia to 6 inches or so. Sorry about the confusion.
  15. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yep, you're right. On both things :)
  16. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That's rich, Dave. This is from https://www.universetoday.com/15055/diameter-of-earth/: the diameter of the Earth at the equator is about 43 kilometers (27 mi) larger than the pole-to-pole diameter... the latest measurements indicate that the Earth has an equatorial diameter of 12,756 km...
  17. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'll assume you meant "area beyond the south pole". Your Adm Byrd video is another complete refutation of your flat earth assertion. First he mentions the south pole. There is no south pole in the standard flat earth model. Then Adm Byrd mentions this unexplored area beyond the south pole that...
  18. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The earth in the video is spinning. But the satellite that took the pictures is moving at essentially the same rate. Thus no apparent spin. This answer is from the comment under the video YOU POSTED when you look at it from youtube: Published on Jan 18, 2017 The Himawari 8 satellite is a...
  19. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No, you're right. It was a complete refutation of your post.
  20. Derf

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Research is good. Thought is good too. Seeking good counsel is good. Ignoring what other people say--not good. I'm not sure I believe you, that you really wanted people to critique the videos, as you didn't seem to appreciate the critique of the ice wall picture--you certainly didn't...
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