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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Maybe you don't understand the gospel. Maybe the good news Peter was preaching to Cornelius was that he could be resurrected, which included the remission of sins. Do you think Cornelius was unaware that Jesus couldn't actually be resurrected unless He first had died? I mean, you seem to think...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Those are big claims. Do you make those claims with scriptural support that you can share with me? Why? Would that change the target of your posts, to only shoot at those that I might be persuaded by? You seem to think little of your persuasive powers. Should I think the same?
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    I guess that can be true of almost anyone. So you like to think of the gospel as a formula that you have to express in exactly the same way every time for it to be effective? Shall we return to the Phillipian Jailer story, where Paul said nothing (at least from the text we have) about the...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    I did, but you rejected it. I can’t do more for you, except try one more time: Acts 10:39-43 (KJV) 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Of course they’re related. But Acts 13:32-33 is about the defeat of death promised in the Garden, (God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again) so it applies to the Jews and Gentiles, alike, whereas the land promise to Abraham was to provide a place...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    I don’t think the land covenant and the Mosaic law are the same thing. The people who aren’t priests partake as well. What’s the difference?
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    It’s an example of a covenant that was in effect, then put on hold, or “paused”, then in effect again (then put on hold again in 70 AD, then in effect again as of 1948). That is to say, the nation of Israel, the beneficiary of the covenant, ceases to receive the benefit of it for a time. That...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    I’m not convinced. Genesis 13:15 (KJV) For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever. There weren’t any conditions placed on this, and God letter confirmed it as a covenant by walking between the halves by Himself. Yet He “paused” the covenant when the...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    You say they are. I showed that they weren’t. Of course they needed to hear the bad news of their sin before hearing the good news of the gospel. Just like Gentiles need to hear the bad news of their sins before they know they need a savior. 1 Corinthians 6:11 (KJV) And such were some of you...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Is Acts 10 the only scripture we look to for Peter’s version of the gospel? what about this: Acts 2:38 (KJV) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. If he...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Genesis 25:16 (KJV) These [are] the sons of Ishmael, and these [are] their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations. But what was preached to the Jew after Paul’s conversion? Even Peter had to admit Paul had good things to say to the Jew. 2 Peter...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    I guess you have to include the tithe in the liturgy, then, if we describe what happened as a liturgy.
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    If you think "fulfill" is better, that's fine, but you complained about that term, too. Jesus did both. Was Cornelius required to be circumcised? Was Cornelius required to be circumcised before Peter learned from Paul? No, "technically" they are not. Neither did the Jews think Samaritans were...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    If it has something to do with us, then I would agree. I’m not sure it does. Did someone suggest there are two? I might have missed it. Part of the beauty of the new covenant was the removal of excess liturgy, in my mind. And I would agree it makes it more like Abraham’s liturgy. Destruction...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    If someone breaks one of our laws, and they are found guilty and punished, the law has been fulfilled in that instance, but there are continuing instances, so it isn’t totally accomplished. To accomplish the law, it has to do all that it is intended to do, at which point it can be abolished...
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    Trump has not conceded

    Does Dan Crenshaw matter more than the senators in Arizona?
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    Trump has not conceded

    Many parts have become public knowledge. Many of these have been corroborated by multiple witnesses. That is the biblical standard of proof. What is yours? I agree that it has not been fully argued in court or US Congress. It has been argued in a few legislative bodies, and has been proven...
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    Trump has not conceded

    Truth. You obviously don’t have it yet. It might take awhile, but the truth will come out about the election. When it does, you probably still won’t believe it, but you will move on to a different battle, fighting either in ignorance or purposeful deception.
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    This has to be the best post I’ve ever seen from you B52! Keep up the good work.
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    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    I’m sure you have me on ignore, but we are not saved from the second death until we are saved from the first death. And EVERYONE is saved from the first death. The second death is not the penalty for sin—the first death is. EVERYONE is not saved from the second death. Thus God was accurate when...
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