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Was that an allegation? Are you suggesting an arrest, conviction, and sentencing based on that allegation? What's your point? If Matt Gaetz was involved in human trafficking, it is kidnapping, and the biblical punishment is death. Resignation wouldn't be needed in such case. If Matt Gaetz...

Then when DO we believe a woman's accusations?

She is female. When females make an accusation, you're supposed to believe it, unless it is about a democrat.

Arrest? Don’t you mean “arrest, convict, and sentence” on allegations alone? That was the whole 4 years of the Trump presidency, including 2 unsubstantiated impeachments.

And even if there is a separation involved, that doesn’t mean it’s the definition of death. For instance, if you get a traffic ticket, you have to sign it to agree to show up in court. We don’t thereby define “traffic infraction” as “signature”. 2nd example. You sit down to eat lunch most...

Cancellation of debt is a Judeo-Christian principle! What isn’t is when the cancellation of the debt is born by the transference of that debt to an unsuspecting or unwilling third party. Jesus paid our debt on the cross, not as an unwilling third party, but as the Son of God. If we were to...

I'll be in the show, I suppose. You just get to observe and tremble.

I would be happy to get someone more stable than Trump, but I think his instability allowed him to do some good things others would be hesitant to do. Abbott has shown some promise, but only after a slow start. DeSantis looks better imo, but I'm not sure where he stands on abortion. I do prefer...

So you are saying that Trump is replacing the legacy, deranged leadership with new and improved deranged leadership?

Here's one internet source of similar thinking. And I'm not arguing with Bob's definition of life--it's hard to, seeing that it admits of being ambiguous on some points. How is physical death related to spiritual death? (from GotQuestions.org) ANSWER The Bible has a great deal to say about...

Well, thanks for your inputs. I appreciate your direct and weighty refutations.

And if you don’t think you’re preaching to the choir, you missed Idolater’s point.

That is human death by a consensus of those that believe it already, which is circular. I’m asking you to consider it might not be correct. I am suggesting that such a definition is assumed a priori rather than determined from the usage in scripture. And you’ve shown by your responses that you...

I think you’re missing his point. RD was saying that Peter and James were written to someone besides gentile Christians, and Idolater was pointing out the inconsistency in his approach.

Mat 10:28 is definitely a good one to bring in to the discussion. But just like you need a different definition of death (“separation”) than one that works in our everyday experience, a different understanding may be needed to understand what Jesus was saying. If “death” is really a complete end...

Ok, would you tie that back in to the thread topic? I think you are saying that the "born again" requirement is only for the Jews, and it's NOT about either salvation or death and resurrection. Did I get that right? In which case, I think you (singular) can safely discard the part of the OP...

Ok, I'll consider that. He did say, "Except A MAN be born again" [Jhn 3:3 KJV] 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. That seems altogether possible, on all sides.

Would you say, RD, that @Idolater is incorrect in coupling 1 Peter 1:3 with John 3:16? If your answer is "Yes", then you would recognize the need for ALL believers to be "born again" as Jesus described to Nicodemus? If your answer is "No", then is there a need or a state of being "born again"...

I'm glad you caught that. I'm suggesting the same is true here. But we only come to a firm grasp on reality when we interpret scripture and reality correctly. So a broad declaration of something that's only understandable from a broad scope of the bible is ripe for misunderstanding.

That’s the same way traditional theists say they come up with the idea that God knows the future exhaustively.