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  1. Derf

    On the omniscience of God

    Isn’t that what you’re doing, following after traditions of man, when you use a single scripture, interpreted through the lens of immutability to say God changes in no way whatsoever, when God tells us all kinds of ways that He changes?
  2. Derf

    On the omniscience of God

    Well, God did say to “get wisdom”.
  3. Derf

    On the omniscience of God

    That’s what JR was trying to tell you. The two parts are related. God says he will not change in this way: “that I would consume you after I promised not to consume you.”
  4. Derf

    On the omniscience of God

    Then He changed by NOT saying “I change not” after He WAS saying it.
  5. Derf

    On the omniscience of God

    When God said it, was He saying it before He said it, or only during the time He said it? What about after God said it? Is God continually in the process of saying "I change not"? What about before he made anyone else? Who was God speaking to when He was continuously saying "I change not"? If...
  6. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    On the passage that seems to say, "Absent from the body is present with the Lord." Here's the passage, with context. [2Co 5:1 KJV] For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. [2Co 5:2...
  7. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    You mean death is not the same as separation?
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    Is death just another life?

    Can you then define spiritually separated?
  9. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    If what you've written below is supposed to explain this statement, I'm still not getting it. But see what I respond with below to determine if we're at least communicating on the same plane. I contend that your definition is made in order to rectify a supposed inconsistency, that Adam DIDN'T...
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    Is death just another life?

    Elvis? Of course you are correct, but no doubt there's a reason why He used "sleep" first, then "dead", more than just that He happened to notice they didn't understand the first term's use. And some reason why He never, ever mentioned Abraham's bosom outside of that story. That passage is...
  11. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    What kind of rest does one need in heaven? There's no night there...I kind of thought that meant we wouldn't need to sleep. Physical sleep helps our bodies to rejuvenate and our minds to calm down and sort things out, and I imagine that's not necessary in heaven. I could be wrong. Personally, I...
  12. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    All people are made in God's image. Jesus tells us that means we belong to God. If God decides to kill someone, that's His choice, because He has full authority over us, just like we have over a plant, or a picture on our wall. So God can't "murder" any normal human. The same works for some...
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    Is death just another life?

    Not always: [Jhn 11:13 KJV] Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. The term "soul sleep" seems to produce some emotional response. I don't like it, personally, because it suggests there's an actual piece of spiritual material somewhere...
  14. Derf

    Bob Debates a Naked Belizean (by phone, thankfully)

    Technically, you can’t defrock a nudist.
  15. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    I think you took this the wrong way, GD. Clete was showing his respect, kind of like a 2-year-old looking up to his older sister.
  16. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    Don't forget they had some 24 hours, supposedly, to die after eating the fruit. God came to them in the evening, normally, and they had eaten it in the day-time, presumably. So if God made them some leather clothes and kicked them out of the garden by some time within that 24 hours, then it...
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    Is death just another life?

    We've moved on, Clete.
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    Is death just another life?

    Hmmm. I thought souls were immortal.
  19. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    I will move on with an assumption of your answer, based on your one, rather ambiguous, post, and your many, rather childish, posts complaining about having to clarify. I understand if you feel like you've been caught in a trap, but I would prefer that you have an honest conversation with me--and...
  20. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    But I will deal with your points, in reverse order. The first is God putting someone to death after He gives them life--only to give them life later on. Why is this a problem? Isn't that what He promised to Adam? And here's scriptural support: [Deu 32:39 KJV] 39 See now that I, [even] I, [am]...
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