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As opposed to setting up strawmen and knocking them down?

You answered it. Why not Clete?

To my conversation with Clete? How is your question pertinent?

It’s not random, and yes, it does. It obviously does to @Clete, since he so obviously wants to avoid talking about it. I’m don’t understand why he’s so afraid to answer the question.

Can you at least confirm when I restate your answer? @Clete agrees that "day" in Gen 2:4 means a time period more than 24 hours. You are welcome to acknowledge or call me a liar.

And does that mean @Clete believes that the day in Gen 2:4 is more than 24 hours? He is so resistant to answer the question, even though now 2 other people have answered the question for him, I have no confidence that he has actually answered the question.

This is well stated, JR. I haven't found much to show internal inconsistency. The best I've found is what I pointed out about what Satan said: "You won't surely die." Satan is subtle, and he mixes truth with lies. If the person never really dies (immortality of the soul is one phrase...

I suppose the Trinity is a presupposition for some, but I’ve tried to debunk it, and I can’t. There is a spiritual body of some sort: 1 Corinthians 15:44 (KJV) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And there are...

You don't answer my question for my sake?

I already did that. I posted what I thought was his answer, and something that contradicted it. So it needed clarification, which I asked for, here (note that I included the post where I thought he almost, sort of answered it)...

I hated that movie, every time my kids watched it!

Jesus is a person, a human one, at that. He went to heaven. While much of the promise of the afterlife is talking about living on the new earth, I don't see anywhere in scripture that no human ever goes to heaven--and I've looked.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say! The death hasn't happened yet, but it is assured. I]m glad we've come to agreement on this!

And the answer was?

Then “I am” doesn’t really mean, “the God who lives.” It could be some dead god. Once more you’ve shown how confused we all get by talking about dead people who still do stuff while being dead. Yet, there are numerous ways, as offered by several in this thread, to make sense of the term...

Do you still agree with this: Here’s “day” used in Gen 2: Genesis 2:4 (KJV) These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, Is that use of “day” 24 hours?

Then you may leave the thread. Your presence here is no longer helpful, if you aren’t willing to ever admit you were wrong.

It’s the best he has to offer.

Maybe I missed it. Would you confirm it for me?

It’s a simple question. A simple yes or no would be much faster than what you wrote.