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Maybe intimacy isn't your forte.

Seems you're working extra hard to read something into that scripture that isn't there, or maybe read something out of it that is there. There's water in this: Acts 19:3-6 (KJV) 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John...

What does koban mean?

Just don't use 'em too much without getting Mary's permission.

Including himself!

That's odd that you would call your own post gibberish, but I agree with you. I think what you're saying with your illustration is that after a certain age, a married couple needs permission from you to have sex more than once a month. But I can't see why anyone would come to that conclusion...

Not true! B57 has been evangelizing here at TOL for years, though he's logically inconsistent in doing so.

Exactly! That's because they are a god unto themselves--no one, in their minds, can tell them what's right or wrong. It's all "internal moral compass", which no one is qualified to critique.

It's not really monogamous, either, unless he's only looking at pornographic images of his wife. Self-gratification is also not monogamous, if he's married.

Atheism is particularly noxious with regard to morality, because their only bases for it are personal opinion and history, which is interpreted by their personal opinion. Even their primary creation myth describes their lawless morality: survival of the fittest. That's exactly why we need to...

My tactic was to compare the "inner moral compass" on slightly different subjects--like adultery and homosexuality. If it begins to fail in one area related to sex, why would we trust it in other areas related to sex. And when it begins to fail, it needs to be regrounded by comparison with a...

"Chaste" and "monogamous" are describing the same thing.

I much prefer sources to personally felt semantics. I'd appreciate a source for yours (like a dictionary citation, perhaps). A "married lech", since promiscuity is part of the definition, is also an adulterer, which Artie was ok with in some cases, as I pointed out. Lechery doesn't seem to...

As if helping you get your definitions correct is a lack of self control? I think you're thinking of "lewdness" with regard to the public beach, which is doing sexual things publicly. Lechery carries with it the connotation of promiscuity, which doesn't apply for old couples who still like to...

Lechery has no component of mutual consent in any definition I've found. Like this from dictionary.com: "unrestrained or excessive indulgence of sexual desire." "Within marriage" is a restraint, therefore you can't be monogamously lecherous. It's back to that oxymoron problem, again.

You make it sound like the conscience is trustworthy. But if Christians need to "walk in the spirit" to produce love joy peace patience kindness goodness gentleness and self-control, how are non-believers going to be able to do those things? Artie said adultery might be permissible in some...

Then it shouldn't be too hard for him. Why would you not encourage him to search the scriptures?

That could be, I suppose.

I guess "dingbat" = "insane"?

I didn't know that about Artie.