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Yet Paul tells Timothy to do righteous things. 2 Timothy 2:22 (KJV) Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

I appreciate the detailed response, JR, and such deserves a more thoughtful response from me than I can give right now. But in the meantime, can you confirm for me whether the words for "heaven" and "heavens" really distinguish between singular and plural as you have done?

He's speaking about the Jews, comparing them to Gentiles (don't forget to read the context). Romans 10:12 (KJV) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. So if the Jews need a preacher, the Gentiles who believe (to...

Paul said we needed to be interceded for. Romans 10:14 (KJV) How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Oh, my mistake.

Yet he was writing to churches that Paul wrote to when he wrote that. What do priests do? They intercede for the people that can't intercede for themselves. If the whole nation of Israel was supposed to be priests, who would they intercede for? The Gentiles. If Israel refused to do their job...

Didn't you just agree with @Idolater?

So you should be looking at another Saul story, where he made a vow that his son Jonathan broke unwittingly. The people had to save Jonathan.

Did you read about the Gibeonites? They gave false testimony to the Israelites, who made a treaty with them under the false pretenses, but God held them to that treaty. He sent famine in David's time because Saul violated that treaty many years later.

Are you justifying breaking a vow? God didn't allow that, even without full informed consent. See David's fix of Saul's breaking of Joshua's treaty with the Gibeonites.

That's not what Peter said.

But Peter was writing to the mostly Gentile churches Paul wrote to.

It wasn't my choice to ban you, and I appreciate that you would have stayed on topic. The flat earth gig is a major distraction for believers.

I'm not interested here, because of all the junk I've read from the flat earthers. I wasn't interested there, because it was off topic.

Doubt you would know whether I have or not.

It was because he hadn't named the firmament until the 5th time. After he named it, then he associated the two words from then on. Don't you think it weird for there to be lights in the firmament, called "heavens", when heaven is on earth, as you said?

That's got to be the goofiest misreading of a passage I've ever heard (barring the flat earth readings)

But the BOC can't afford one-woman-men now? Why is Paul's direction to allow marriage discarded in favor of someone's who's obviously less qualified to decide?

Maybe more so. Practicing murderers rarely recruit for their craft. Nor rapists. Homosexuals almost always do, to feed their lusts. They do it through legislation aimed at children. That child rapist you mentioned? Mostly they are homosexuals. So you recognize some of the problem. There is...

There you have it. Society has a safety need, and sodomy, named for Lot's town, was unsafe--even before the mosaic law.