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True True I would be very cautious using that approach. Witches and non-witches were both executed under such pretenses in this country. If we don't do due diligence in our investigation, we could still say, "God, this guy is guilty of things we cannot begin to grasp the ramifications of." In...

Could be. I haven't done the water-based experiments. Maybe you should try it and see what happens. Let me know how it goes.

So they were able to earn their salvation?

Like calling people "stupid" when they disagree you? That's "actual debate"?

What is the consequence of the assertion, assuming it is true?

If you think that's unjust, then you also have a problem with @Clete, since he is saying above that the peoblem you have just stayed needed to be resolved by Christ on the cross. These concepts do not have to be mutually exclusive. (another way of saying "false dichotomy")

But the point is that whoever wrote Hebrews, he was influenced by Paul. Luke, especially, was with Paul regularly. And if Paul influenced Luke, one of the ways he must have done so is by telling him his gospel. It is extremely unlikely that Luke, hearing the gospel from Paul, would reject it in...

So you agree that it wasn't available to Jews (or anybody else for that matter) before Paul. And before that, was everybody still required to do something they were unable to do to be saved?

But the fact that provision needed to be made for everyone is indicative of the situation before Christ--that the offspring of Adam NEEDED some kind of salvation just because Adam sinned. And we find tge wording if Ezekiel 18 allows for such, in that God says "No longer will the oroverb be...

Im pretty sure Answers in Genesis started out with something more like what you describe for their ark models, but they likely tested them and found a need to put a proper prow and stern on it to keep it more stable. The Ark Encounter in Kentucky features a number of suppositions about...

You are undoubtedly the first, Lon, by every indication in this thread. You obviously don't want to know what the word means, i.e., what is it used to convey in context, and you obviously are standing your ground on a fallacious meaning because of your deeply held theological position. Then you...

Well, now that everybody is all offended because i don't agree with your position, here's a pretty good discussion about Luke being the author of Hebrews Trinity Radio: DAVID ALLEN: Who Wrote Hebrews? Episode webpage: http://www.braxtonhunter.com/podcast/2025/1/3/david-allen-who-wrote-hebrews...

Because Jesus spoke of two resurrections, not including His, of the just and the unjust. John would know about the two. But he would also know about the rapture resurrection from Paul, as Peter would have. Not to mention that Lazarus was resurrected before Jesus, and John was there.

Peter knew about Paul's letters, and Paul wrote of a resurrection of those of the BOC who had fallen asleep in 1Thes 4. Why wouldn't John have known about them? And if he did know, wouldn't he have known to call the first resurrection of Rev 20 "the second", if it indeed applied to the whole...

So you think there is a third resurrection ?

There were actually two apostles named James, but neither were the James from Gal 2:12. But in @Nick M's defense, he wasn't trying to talk about that James, as is evident in tge context of his post. Thus is what I think you are doing regularly, you get triggered by certain buzzwords to repeat...

Are you saying that the first resurrection in Rev 20 is only Israel, and the second resurrection, the “rest of the dead" is also only Israel?

Yes, but Jesus will be ruling over the whole world. If the 12 only judge the twelve tribes, who is judging the rest of the world and who is judging the angels? Paul tells us.

There are many Christians who willingly accept Hebrews as applicable to themselves, without having their theology threatened. It seems like only the MADists are so eager to keep it as only for Israel, despite the obvious connection to Paul even if it wasn't written by Paul. And I don't...

Maybe there are two groups that receive eternal life. Maybe more. For instance, infants who die are not "believers", yet I think we both would say they receive eternal life. Did it? or did one group, that didn't have eternal life promises gain access to the eternal life of the other group...